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Re: Duplicate cities in GPS

Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:59 am

Most likely this will not be considered a "bug", but a "normal feature" of the Nav software that they have chosen to use.

But, it does not hurt to report the things you do not like.

Most annoying about the Prius Nav database is that not all areas are "fully covered". Apparently their adopted Nav system (gets data from a dual-layer DVD) ran out of room (about 7.5 GB) and they had to strip out data in some less-populated areas. Other GPS systems compress/organize/store data much more compactly, and appear to cover all of the USA and Canada in less than 2 GB of flash memory (SD card).

Does the LEAF Nav have "full" coverage, or just partial?
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Re: Duplicate cities in GPS

Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:41 am

We took delivery of our LEAF yesterday at North Bay Nissan in Petaluma and I tried to set the GPS route guidance to take me home here in W. Sacramento.

YIKES ! Nothing in our neighborhood exists on the mapping software. That means the software is AT LEAST FOUR YEARS out of date for our area of the Sacramento metropolitan region. I would note that our Volt has the area fully mapped. So Nissan's GPS supplier has not updated at least this area since 2007; I wonder what other detail updates are MISSING in the GPS software?

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Re: Duplicate cities in GPS

Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:54 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:another example; my parents lived on Alder St SE in Lacey, their house # is 1608. they live between 14th street and 15th Street....figure that one out. yep, there are 4 houses; 1602, 1604, 1606 and 1608 that were put on the new numbering system while existing houses were allowed to keep their old number. the house next door to my parents is #1470.

so u c; making a map might not be as simple as you think
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In Japan and South Korea, a city is divided into small numbered zones. The houses within each zone are then labelled in the order in which they were constructed. Not real helpful unless you belong to the historical society.
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Re: Duplicate cities in GPS

Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:17 am

I believe the maps are not OLD, but have been "pruned".

I suggest complaining to your Dealer, and to Nissan Customer Support (877-664-2738).

At least the Prius-Nav, also with "pruned" (not full coverage) maps, will display the (lack of) "coverage" on Region maps.
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Re: Duplicate cities in GPS

Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:35 am

GeorgeParrott wrote:YIKES ! Nothing in our neighborhood exists on the mapping software. That means the software is AT LEAST FOUR YEARS out of date for our area of the Sacramento metropolitan region.
I'll know when I get the car. Our area developed about 5 years back. Until a couple of years back no mapping system recognized our home address - including Google/Bing. Even now a lot of people coming to our house get lost because the GPS guides them to the wrong address.

Incidentally the city inspector who had to come today to inspect apparently couldn't find the house and won't come today. He called the electric contractor to inform him ... sigh.
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Re: Duplicate cities in GPS

Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:05 am

I'd almost swear that the Nissan rep at San Diego Street Smart said that you'd be able to plan a route on your computer using Google Maps and then push the map to the car GPS. This led me to expect the car's map system would use Google Maps and would be automatically updated from time to time.

I wonder if that was the plan, and changed some time after Nissan gave the center console to Microsoft. That might also explain the continuing lack of an Android app. http://www.taintedgreen.com/green-cars/ ... 00812/rr-8
Already, Google has partnered with Chevy and developed an app for the Android platform to link to the Volt's computer system to get a read on battery power and to schedule charging for off peak hours.
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Re: Duplicate cities in GPS

Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:00 pm

walterbays wrote:I'd almost swear that the Nissan rep at San Diego Street Smart said that you'd be able to plan a route on your computer using Google Maps and then push the map to the car GPS. This led me to expect the car's map system would use Google Maps and would be automatically updated from time to time.
Garmin lets you push the addresses - not sure of the routes.

Maps themselfs come from Navteq as has been said here repeatedly. Just like Garmin (and almost all other automajors).

ps : All gps/nav systems ask for big bucks to update the maps.
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Re: Duplicate cities in GPS

Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:19 pm

evnow wrote:ps : All gps/nav systems ask for big bucks to update the maps.
True, Toyota wants more money to update my map than a new portable GPS device costs. But there has been severe downward pressure on map pricing in the last couple of years. Garmin (and I think some others) offer free map updates when you buy their handheld GPS. https://my.garmin.com/maps/nuMaps.htm Apple started offering a cheap monthly subscription to maps on iPhone, and you didn't even have to buy a separate GPS. Then Google started offering free up-to-date maps with turn by turn voice directions for Android. It's hard to talk myself into paying a monthly subscription fee for what is otherwise free.
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Re: Duplicate cities in GPS

Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:16 pm

I have started just ignoring whatever navigation system comes in my car. Every time I have tried to upgrade something involving a pre-installed navigation system in my car, they ended up asking for hundreds of dollars (both my Prius and my Porsche have sub-par systems in them). I now use Google Maps on my Android phone for navigation. The only downside I can see is that it uses the small screen of the phone. It speaks the directions, and it automatically uses whatever the latest version is for maps and businesses. I also use it for walking directions in cities. No navigation system is perfect, but the price is right for this one.

Incidentally, Larry Page (CEO and founder of Google) has both a Chevy Volt and a Tesla.

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