johnlocke wrote:I can assure you that my battery loss was not a "Phantom Loss"...
And, even if the ranges you state correspond to capacity accurately (it's a lot simpler if you learn to state capacity in kWh instead of "miles") and the additional range available from VLBW to shutdown was ~10 "miles" when new, and increased to ~12 "miles" by the time you lost bar nine, your range-determined loss of available capacity was 73/100, or ~23%, not the 38%, as you insist:johnlocke wrote: My range decreased from 90 miles at VLBW to 65 miles at VLBW...
For comparison, when My pack lost its ninth bar, at ~seven years and ~60k miles from delivery, it had ~24% lower available capacity than Nissan specified, while my LBC showed a ~36% loss of capacity.johnlocke wrote: Four bars down is actually 62% of original capacity...
YepWetEV wrote:I'd like to see a recharge or range test done by a third party (such as one or more MNL regulars) to convince me that this is just mostly a reporting/BMS measuring flaw.OrientExpress wrote:The issue is that a battery presenting 2-4 lost bars, actually still has its nominal capacity, so the consumer hasn't lost anything at all. That is the issue, batteries that still had their nominal capacity for their age and mileage were displaying accelerated capacity loss when in reality they didn't have that loss at all.
I take it that you are volunteering to do this test and report your findings?SageBrush wrote:YepWetEV wrote:
I'd like to see a recharge or range test done by a third party (such as one or more MNL regulars) to convince me that this is just mostly a reporting/BMS measuring flaw.
I don't think it's going to make the pack temp any cooler after multiple QC but might add some stability to the GOM , I hope it does't slow the charge rate like the 2018's.webeleafowners wrote:So, I am not following. Can someone summarize.
* Am I to understand that there is a recall type campaign that somehow affects the BMS?
* Is the degradation on the 2016 batteries real or is it just reporting incorrectly.
* Does this fix somehow restore the battery or just prevent further degradation.
Please be patient with me. Reading various sources and not seeing any consistency.