johnlocke
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:33 pm

Aug update. 337 GID's 73.81AH SOH=92.87% Hx=78.57% 65250 total mi. 20321 mi on new battery. 17 DCFC and 387 l2 charges on the new battery. The new battery is still doing better than the first one. I'm down 7% from new in just over 13 months. That would put me down around 20% at 100K miles and 2 1/2 more years of operation. I would expect this battery to last about 5 years before it hits 8 bars. Although the range is adequate for now, I just put new tires on and took a small hit in mileage (5%). Doesn't seem like much but it adds up and cuts the range by 4-5 miles overall. I get uncomfortable when I have to run extra errands. I just need a bigger battery overall or one that doesn't degrade over time. 80% of original capacity is about as low as I can practically use without resorting to DCFC a couple of times a week while out in town. My expectation at this point is that I'll trade the Leaf in a couple of years for something with more range and better electronics.
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:58 pm

@SageBrush
SageBrush wrote: Does your heater have any TOU controls ?
“iplug” wrote: No, wish it did. Hoping they will add a firmware update some day...We have one of the latest Rheem 65 gallon units. For about $49 we added a WiFi module (EcoNet) that lets you adjust some of the settings that you can right on the water heater like on/off, temperature, mode (heat pump only, hybrid, electric resistance only, etc), vacation mode, etc...
Update:

EcoNet 2.0 software just installed today on my iPhone with TOU controls. Looks like we now have the ability. I have the water heater set now only to act as a thermal battery and run the heat pump during lowest TOU timeframes.
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:19 pm

Is the above post in the wrong topic...?
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:22 pm

It’s an updated reply from a post 1.5 years ago in this same thread. Agree not right thread to start, but was already there

Feel free to relocate. Maybe to a home energy/efficiency thread.
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:26 pm

Nah, I just couldn't find the first part.
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:37 pm

https://www.facebook.com/groups/nissan. ... 950176660/ - (initials MW) in the DFW area reports 1 bar down on his '16 and the update has been applied already. Unfortunately, it's a closed group.

From his GOM report, I assume he's got a 30 kWh Leaf.

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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:27 pm

https://www.facebook.com/groups/4377412 ... 870786796/ has a pic of a '17 SL down 1 capacity bar at 133K miles. They said "2 years 5 months later from new".

I don't know where they're located but from their profile, I'm guessing Missouri.

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goldbrick
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:55 pm

At 133k miles I'd say they can't complain too much. How much maintenance would an ICE car have in that time-frame? :shock:

I'm amazed at how much some folks drive...

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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:32 am

He says he lost that 1st bar at around 72K miles.

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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:53 am

goldbrick wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:55 pm
At 133k miles I'd say they can't complain too much. How much maintenance would an ICE car have in that time-frame? :shock:

I'm amazed at how much some folks drive...
He drove a healthy amount, BUT... We have a Northwesterner who has 105,000 miles on his 40 kwh LEAF still 12 bars but sadly, his roadtripping will be on hold for a while. His PDM quit working.
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