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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:57 am
by DaveinOlyWA
bakermel1 wrote:My 2016, purchased in Dec 2015, 30 kWh just lost it's 4th bar today at 29,800 miles in Phoenix. I took it to the dealer, they inspected it and are ordering a new battery. At this rate, I'll get a couple new batteries under warranty. I am looking forward to having more range again. I have been down to 60-70 miles for a full charge the last couple weeks.
quite curious as to what LEAF Spy readings are. Any chance you could hook up with someone who has it? It would take less than 30 seconds to get a read on your car.


It seems the 4th bar represents more than the 63ish % the 24 kwh packs were at

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:21 am
by SageBrush
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
It seems the 4th bar represents more than the 63ish % the 24 kwh packs were at
I keep wondering about that too. It is awful tempting to guess the warranty threshold kicks in at ~ 15 kWh for either car.


@bakermel1, what was your typical range when the battery was new ?

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:06 am
by bakermel1
I don't have leaf spy to hook up. I'll get it and check. My range was 110-100 miles per charge and now down to 60-70 miles with 4 bars gone. I charge to 100% most days.

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:04 pm
by SageBrush
bakermel1 wrote:I don't have leaf spy to hook up. I'll get it and check. My range was 110-100 miles per charge and now down to 60-70 miles with 4 bars gone. I charge to 100% most days.
Thanks.

At face value that suggests the threshold percentage for warranty replacement of the battery is the same as the 24 kWh Models. I'm looking forward to LeafSpy data too!

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:29 pm
by DCinMO
2016 SV , 30 kWh, 18,000 miles. First capacity bar loss occurred today. Daily driver with 72 total mile commute. Level 2 charging overnight to 100%. I live in Southwest Missouri where our August has been unseasonably cool. Of the 72 miles, approximately 40 is 70 mph interstate highway driving.

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:43 pm
by LeftieBiker
Do you use a charge timer to get to 100% right before leaving in the morning, or does the car sit at 100% for a few hours? Either way, that's pretty bad...

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:13 pm
by DaveinOlyWA
DCinMO wrote:2016 SV , 30 kWh, 18,000 miles. First capacity bar loss occurred today. Daily driver with 72 total mile commute. Level 2 charging overnight to 100%. I live in Southwest Missouri where our August has been unseasonably cool. Of the 72 miles, approximately 40 is 70 mph interstate highway driving.
wow! that is quick! What is your build date? (as if I had to ask...)

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:12 pm
by jbuntz
DCinMO wrote:2016 SV , 30 kWh, 18,000 miles. First capacity bar loss occurred today. Daily driver with 72 total mile commute. Level 2 charging overnight to 100%. I live in Southwest Missouri where our August has been unseasonably cool. Of the 72 miles, approximately 40 is 70 mph interstate highway driving.
I am guessing you are close to if not past low battery warning by the time you get back home?

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:49 pm
by cwerdna
bakermel1 wrote:I don't have leaf spy to hook up. I'll get it and check. My range was 110-100 miles per charge and now down to 60-70 miles with 4 bars gone. I charge to 100% most days.
Any updates?. There are some other Leafers in the Phoenix area who have Leaf Spy and could get readings for us.

Also, would be curious to know he part # on your invoice, once the works's done. And, would also be curious to know how many (if any) replacements the dealer service dept has done on 30 kWh '16 and '17 Leafs. I suspect none for the latter, yet.

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:05 pm
by webeleafowners
We don't have leaf spy so can't contribute data here but am curious as well on how build date affects this. Our 2016 SV is build date April 2016. We live in a milder climate but do hit 38 C in the summer. Lets say 100. We operate in the 7 bar range for a couple months of the year and have seen 8 bars occasionally after multiple fast charges on longer trips. We have noticed little Max range change on either the GOM or real world. Would you speculate this is a result of climate or build date. Probably a third less mileage on our car compared to the other leaf owner. Is there any evidence that they started to build the new 30K packs different after a certain date??