goldbrick
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:13 pm

It's 8 years (to the day) from the 'in service date' which I think it the day it is driven off the lot after being purchased. Or 100k miles, whichever comes first.

SlowApe
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:42 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:22 pm
........Other things to consider; long-term storage (which to me is more than a few days) the ideal is around half. Nissan shipped cars from Japan at 40% SOC verified with both of my 24 kWh cars (along with inept dealerships) so anywhere in that range is good.
Gotcha...thank you for the education and responses. I am fortunate enough to have a motorcycle and a second vehicle that I use for towing, family-hauling, and long-distance trips. (four kids, the wife, the boats, the side by sides, etc.). Getting caught without enough battery won't be an issue for me, especially because my world for the most part is all within five miles of my house. The part that has me doing backflips is the fact that I start to get into pre-new-battery milage when I am now at 30% battery. I was easily able to drive it every day with a max range of ~58 miles. So this new battery will make it EASY to keep it at, or below 50%, and still drive it every day. I bought this car "just because" and I've only had it for a couple of weeks, but in that time, I have been converted to a big EV fan! Now if I can only convince the wife to make her next vehicle a Tesla X or Y vs the new Ford Bronco she wants LOL
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fergy126
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:45 pm

Can anyone tell me how far off I am from losing my 4th bar?

2017 Leaf S, Augusta, GA.

Current stats via LeafSpy: 80882 miles, 51.598AHr, SOH 64.92% been down to three bars for about 5-6 months, firmware update completed.

Oils4AsphaultOnly
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:15 pm

fergy126 wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:45 pm
Can anyone tell me how far off I am from losing my 4th bar?

2017 Leaf S, Augusta, GA.

Current stats via LeafSpy: 80882 miles, 51.598AHr, SOH 64.92% been down to three bars for about 5-6 months, firmware update completed.
Winter's coming, so the battery health will get "preserved" until the spring. Going off of memory, ~62% SOH or somewhere around there is when the fourth bar drops.
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goldbrick
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:08 pm

I'd say your close but at 80k miles I'd watch how many miles are put on the car this winter. The SOH usually levels off when the temp drops although I don't know how much that applies to a climate like Georgia. Remember that if you hit 100,000.1 miles the warranty has expired.

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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:32 pm

fergy126 wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:45 pm
Can anyone tell me how far off I am from losing my 4th bar?

2017 Leaf S, Augusta, GA.

Current stats via LeafSpy: 80882 miles, 51.598AHr, SOH 64.92% been down to three bars for about 5-6 months, firmware update completed.
How's them tires looking? Charge to 100% as much as possible and jackrabbit takeoffs as much as you can get away with. You should lose that bar well before 90,000 miles.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 14,342.8 mi, 93.16% SOH
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:10 pm

fergy126 wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:45 pm
Can anyone tell me how far off I am from losing my 4th bar?

2017 Leaf S, Augusta, GA.

Current stats via LeafSpy: 80882 miles, 51.598AHr, SOH 64.92% been down to three bars for about 5-6 months, firmware update completed.
FYI. My stats

2016 Leaf SV
San Diego, CA
battery replacement under warranty at end of Sept 2020

dropped 4th bar:
71,062 miles
2020-09-16
SOH = 65.86
AHr = 52.35

dropped 3rd bar:
65,580 miles
2019-06-29
SOH = 72.36
AHr = 57.51
2016 Leaf SV purchased 10/2018 with 62k miles. Manufactured 10/2015 with first owner at 8/2016. New 40 kWh replacement battery installed 9/2020 under warranty.

fergy126
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:54 am

fergy126 wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:45 pm
Can anyone tell me how far off I am from losing my 4th bar?

2017 Leaf S, Augusta, GA.

Current stats via LeafSpy: 80882 miles, 51.598AHr, SOH 64.92% been down to three bars for about 5-6 months, firmware update completed.
Thanks for the advice and info comrades, I'll post my specs when the 4th bar drops.

My daily commute is about 100 miles so I may switch to my ICE vehicle during the winter just to conserve miles.

I've got my annual inspection scheduled in a few days, anything I should mention or not mention to the service advisor. I really hope they don't pull anything funny with my BMS system.

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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:22 am

Fergy126, has the car had the BMS SW patch applied?
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fergy126
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:48 am

OrientExpress wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:22 am
Fergy126, has the car had the BMS SW patch applied?
Yes.

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