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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:50 pm
by iPlug
SageBrush wrote: Does your heater have any TOU controls ?
No, wish it did. Hoping they will add a firmware update some day, but doubtful.

We have one of the latest Rheem 65 gallon units. For about $49 we added a WiFi module (EcoNet) that lets you adjust some of the settings that you can right on the water heater like on/off, temperature, mode (heat pump only, hybrid, electric resistance only, etc), vacation mode, etc.

Still, for our TOU plan, a heat pump water heater works nicely. It consumes most energy during our coldest 6 “winter” months when electricity is cheapest. During the 6 “summer” months, the heat pump would run a few hours max in the morning after showers before the high afternoon TOU rates kick in. Again, in the evening after showers the heat pump would run again, but at mostly partial peak or off peak rates and very efficiently as transferring heat from the hot summer garage air.

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:58 pm
by SageBrush
iPlug wrote:
SageBrush wrote: Does your heater have any TOU controls ?
No, wish it did. Hoping they will add a firmware update some day, but doubtful.

We have one of the latest Rheem 65 gallon units. For about $49 we added a WiFi module (EcoNet) that lets you adjust some of the settings that you can right on the water heater like on/off, temperature, mode (heat pump only, hybrid, electric resistance only, etc), vacation mode, etc.
The wi-fi controls sound pretty good for a start if it can be programmed like a home thermostat with a couple of on-off times through the day.

I'm OK with NG heating my water, but I would love to have a heat pump or two for home air heating. The radiant floor heating installed is poor.

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:01 pm
by Maggie
After a few other scheduling issues, I finally brought my 2016 leaf in for the dealer to perform the 'additional diagnostics' they said I needed the first time. They called me a few hours later and said I had been immediately approved for a new battery and no further testing was necessary??? Guess it depends on WHO gets the diagnostics, or wherever they send all that information to at Nissan? In any case --- battery scheduled for replacement on Thursday. Hope to find out some details on the battery I am going to get --- new? used? I just expect to have to repeat this process in another 2 years or so ---- we are not going to change how we drive, and Florida summers don't seem to be getting any cooler. It will be nice to have the higher range again though, I miss that.

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:19 pm
by LeftieBiker
You should get a new 30kwh battery.

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:28 pm
by DaveinOlyWA
Maggie wrote:After a few other scheduling issues, I finally brought my 2016 leaf in for the dealer to perform the 'additional diagnostics' they said I needed the first time. They called me a few hours later and said I had been immediately approved for a new battery and no further testing was necessary??? Guess it depends on WHO gets the diagnostics, or wherever they send all that information to at Nissan? In any case --- battery scheduled for replacement on Thursday. Hope to find out some details on the battery I am going to get --- new? used? I just expect to have to repeat this process in another 2 years or so ---- we are not going to change how we drive, and Florida summers don't seem to be getting any cooler. It will be nice to have the higher range again though, I miss that.
you will get a new battery.

let us know if you notice anything different especially QC charging speed.

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:04 pm
by xlckx
2016 30kWh - lost first bar at 8532 miles. I guess socal heat really speed things up...

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:09 pm
by johnlocke
March update. 244 GID's at full charge. 53.13AH SOH = 66.85% Hx = 58.50% 40700 mi. 86 L3 charges. 778 L2 charges. February saw a small drop in capacity but the the biggest difference is in the L3 charge rate. Lower initial charge rate (85 Amps vs 106 Amps when new) and faster tapering of charge rate as it charges the battery. On a L3 charger, charge rate starts to taper off at about 80% and by 90% is down to 16 amps or less. I can no longer get to a full charge in 30 minutes even with a 50% charge when I start. L2 at home charges to 100% no problem. All the cells are in good balance (15 mv typically) so there's no bad cell causing this. I have to think that the BMS is limiting the charge rate.

I'm just above the range to lose the fourth bar. As the weather warms up here, I expect to lose the fourth bar in April or May. I'd be surprised if it holds out until June. So much for it being a 100,000 mile battery. As it stands now I end up having to stop somewhere 2-3 times a week to add enough charge to make sure I can get home safely.

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:04 pm
by LTLFTcomposite
DaveinOlyWA wrote: 18000 miles? DAMN!! that is insane!
I confirmed today the car has 18,700 miles.

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:49 am
by eatsleafsandshoots
Just passed 17k on my '17 S. Haven't LeafSpied yet, but I've still got all my bars. Can't really tell if I've lost range since it's winter here.

It is *totally insane* that some people have had packs at 8 bars with my mileage!

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:48 pm
by vishvik
Hi, I have a 2016 Leaf SV (leased in July 2016) and have about 22K miles. Last week, I lost my 3rd capacity bar!! I still have 16 months to go on my 3-year lease. Wondering what's the best option for me going forward. I didn't take it to the dealership yet to figure out what's going on.
My Atlanta daily commute is 60 miles and I go to work 4 days a week. I use a level-2 charger each night.
Thanks in advance for any advice!