2015 "lizard" and 2016 24 kWh S battery capacity bar losers

[SageBrush]

Lots to correct up there!

* The Bolt uses the same L-2 charging stations as all other EVs except Teslas sold in the US.

The Tesla can use the same J1772 L2 station, you just attach an adapter to the plug.

[powersurge]

What kind of Leafspy stats do you have now, right after the dropping of the first bar.??

[cwerdna]

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 50#p518650 reports his '15 SL is at 33K miles and has lost a bar. Location is unknown along w/when bar was lost.

[Jedlacks]

My '15 SV lost it's first bar this morning at 43,250. I plan to charge to 100% on Tuesday morning, so I will update the stats on the other thread. The GOM showed 93 miles, but I will be shifting from City driving to highways when I relocate to Miami in two weeks. The new office is 37 miles from my house down there, and it has free L2. The only drawback is that 6-7 of my coworkers drive Tesla's, so I'll park on the end.

I'm going to drive this for at least another year and wait to see what the new offerings are.

[valem]

I'm finding several 2015 for sale with a manufacturing date on the door sticker indicating early 2014, like 05/14. How can that even be a 2015?
How can that be, how does the manufacturing date work?
At what point of the year is a car considered the next year car? I would have thought closer to the end of the year, and certainly not in the first half of the year...

[DaveinOlyWA]

I'm finding several 2015 for sale with a manufacturing date on the door sticker indicating early 2014, like 05/14. How can that even be a 2015?
How can that be, how does the manufacturing date work?
At what point of the year is a car considered the next year car? I would have thought closer to the end of the year, and certainly not in the first half of the year...

Realize the LEAF MY 2014 was one of the shortest in Automotive history. The desire to get a more robust "Lizard" pack out there was rather large which undoubtedly encouraged Nissan to issue the 2015 MY early for a more definitive line in the sand.

[SageBrush]

The only drawback is that 6-7 of my coworkers drive Tesla's, so I'll park on the end.

That is no drawback. They are unlikely to compete for L2 charging spots unless parking privileges come into play or an owner particularly cares about the free charging perk.

As an aside, this is why you should advocate for non-free charging at typical home rates. It just encourages too much bad behavior.

[valem]

I'm finding several 2015 for sale with a manufacturing date on the door sticker indicating early 2014, like 05/14. How can that even be a 2015?
How can that be, how does the manufacturing date work?
At what point of the year is a car considered the next year car? I would have thought closer to the end of the year, and certainly not in the first half of the year...

Realize the LEAF MY 2014 was one of the shortest in Automotive history. The desire to get a more robust "Lizard" pack out there was rather large which undoubtedly encouraged Nissan to issue the 2015 MY early for a more definitive line in the sand.

Thanks for the explanation.

But how to tell I'm really looking at a MY 2015 with a "lizard battery" ?

Thanks

[cwerdna]

I'm finding several 2015 for sale with a manufacturing date on the door sticker indicating early 2014, like 05/14. How can that even be a 2015?
How can that be, how does the manufacturing date work?
At what point of the year is a car considered the next year car? I would have thought closer to the end of the year, and certainly not in the first half of the year...

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 8&p=374490 was when we first learned of the "lizard" battery being installed in model year '15 Leafs. As far as we know, ALL model year '15 US Leafs should have the "lizard" battery,. Presumably model year '16 S trim (original 24 kWh S trim, NOT the "S 30" 30 kWh that came near the end) should have it, as well.

You can figure out the model year via the VIN and via Carfax/Autocheck. Sorry, I don't have the a decoder in front of me/off the top of my head regarding which digit in the VIN you should check for model year.

As for model years, IIRC, Ferrari does something where model year can be a year behind calendar year. Typically, around latter part of Aug/beginning of Sept in a "normal" cycle does next year's model start showing up at dealers. Example exceptions:
- 2010 Prius went on sale in the US around May 2009
- 2012 Prius wasn't available at US dealers until calendar year 2012, a few weeks in
- 2013 Leaf wasn't available at any US dealers I'm aware of until at least a few weeks into calendar year 2013
- https://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/21/why ... cant-driv/ is crazy where 2014 Mazda6 showed up at dealers at end of 2012!

[DaveinOlyWA]

I'm finding several 2015 for sale with a manufacturing date on the door sticker indicating early 2014, like 05/14. How can that even be a 2015?
How can that be, how does the manufacturing date work?
At what point of the year is a car considered the next year car? I would have thought closer to the end of the year, and certainly not in the first half of the year...

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 8&p=374490 was when we first learned of the "lizard" battery being installed in model year '15 Leafs. As far as we know, ALL model year '15 US Leafs should have the "lizard" battery,. Presumably model year '16 S trim (original 24 kWh S trim, NOT the "S 30" 30 kWh that came near the end) should have it, as well.

You can figure out the model year via the VIN and via Carfax/Autocheck. Sorry, I don't have the a decoder in front of me/off the top of my head regarding which digit in the VIN you should check for model year.

As for model years, IIRC, Ferrari does something where model year can be a year behind calendar year. Typically, around latter part of Aug/beginning of Sept in a "normal" cycle does next year's model start showing up at dealers. Example exceptions:
- 2010 Prius went on sale in the US around May 2009
- 2012 Prius wasn't available at US dealers until calendar year 2012, a few weeks in
- 2013 Leaf wasn't available at any US dealers I'm aware of until at least a few weeks into calendar year 2013
- https://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/21/why ... cant-driv/ is crazy where 2014 Mazda6 showed up at dealers at end of 2012!

To add; I got my 2010 Prius on a special priority purchase program from Toyota and picked it up May 9th, 2009. I could have picked it up nearly a week earlier but was out of town when the dealership called.

Like Nissan, Toyota simply wanted to get a new product out sooner since the 2010 was first redesign from the "iconic" version. This benefited me VERY much as the WA State sales tax waiver for hybrids ended May 31st of that year.