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LEAF won't go into Drive

Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:16 am

I suspect that this problem is operator error/lack of understanding, but it will affect others, so here's the description:

Monika took the LEAF to work today. First drive on her own. Problem arose right away; the car refused to go into Reverse or Drive. It came out of P, into N, but that was all. I watched and gave suggestions through the window (door open gives door ajar alarm, and we already had enough red and yellow warnings). I noticed that both caution triangles, red and yellow, were remaining lit in the upper (speedometer) display. After Monika gave up, I climbed in, went through my usual startup routine, and the LEAF responded perfectly. I had Monika get in, and she drove away.

I called her when she was two blocks away and asked her to stop and restart the car. It had occurred to me that one big difference between us was the fob. The one she was using hasn't been used before. She complied, and the LEAF again wouldn't go into Drive. I drove over and swapped fobs. No improvement. I got in and the car behaved normally on my second try. So it did fail for me, also.

I have occasionally had problems before, always when I "rush" the start sequence. It usually works; I can be in Drive and moving long before the startup chime ends. But once in a while I get errors and the car won't go. And I got one battery error by leaving car "on" but in Park too long while I used an ATM. Don't understand that one at all. It cleared on restart.

Anyway, lacking any more data right now, I'm guessing that Monika attempts to move the shifter to Drive a little sooner than I usually do, and the LEAF doesn't like it. I verified that she had her foot on the brake and seatbelt fastened when she pushed the go button; that definitely wasn't the problem.

If you encounter something like this, watch the displays for clues. The two triangles in the upper display are your first hint, and there may or may not be something down in the message area under the bubblemeter. You will have to put the car in Park, turn power off and then back on. When I waited until all warnings or meter tests had finished before I shifted to Drive, the car was happy, and Monika went on her way. Needless to say, I'll keep my phone with me today!

-Karl

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Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:25 am

any shift attempt without foot on brake goes to neutral. i suspect this is the problem. the other would be that she is not in "ready" mode.
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Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:32 am

Foot was on brake every time I checked. This was first on my list. I've tested that feature myself.

-Karl

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Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:40 am

Did she have her foot on the brake when she first pushed start? If not, it will do exactly what you describe.
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Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:44 am

i frequently shift the car before its ready but i just wait a few seconds and reshift and its fine. i also found my habit (works with my Prius) of shifting twice quickly does not work. it simply ignores the 2nd one as well.

once i had to push the start button again. i pretty much figured out the first push happened before my foot made it to the brake pedal.

as far as dash, you should have that car symbol up if ready to drive.
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Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:46 am

Something like this happened to me the other day when getting onto the ferry, but I just attributed it to my "starting" the car by doing the double-Start button press (without the use of the brake pedal). I had done this to roll down the windows a few minutes before and, since everything looked like it was up and running, I patiently waited until the final second to put the car in drive, only to find it only going into neutral instead. Needless to say I was a little embarrassed having held up the line.. :oops:

Putting a foot on the brake and pressing the Start button a third time cleared up the problem.

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Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:47 am

Is it possible she's not pushing hard enough on the brake? (I don't know how much force is required, but yours might be set a little off)

Is the rear brake light turning on?

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Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:54 am

Does it ever work for Monika?

If so, analyze the differences.
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Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:10 pm

Pushing start without the brake pedal depressed can put the car into accessory mode much like turning a traditional key a quarter turn. This would cause the condition. If you are 100% certain the brake pedal is depressed, then the plastic switch that senses the brake pedal depression is a likely culprit.
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Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:37 pm

mossyleaf wrote:Pushing start with the brake pedal depressed can put the car into accessory mode much like turning a traditional key a quarter turn. This would cause the condition. If you are 100% certain the brake pedal is depressed, then the plastic switch that senses the brake pedal depression is a likely culprit.
You mean WITHOUT the brake pedal depressed, right?

This is one of the reasons I don't like the idea of letting Mrs. W. have a go....she has enough trouble getting our kitchen appliances to do what she wants. I love her dearly, but you should see her wrestle with the toaster oven sometimes. :?
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