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Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:35 am
by garygid
So, with the car "OFF" (or Charging), the LEAF's audio amplifier remains ON?

And, the LEAF's "cell phone" (data) connection or antenna is not sufficiently isolated from the audio system?

Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:44 am
by LEAFer
GroundLoop wrote:
kolmstead wrote: OK, here's one I haven't seen mentioned: I can hear the car talking with Mother. Parked under sunshade, blower and audio off, when I ask Carwings for an update, I hear a little 'rotta rotta' sound from behind the dash.... There's absolutely no reason for a cellular modem to make noise, but my LEAF's does.
What you're probably hearing is the GSM traffic burst being picked up by the car's audio amplifiers and soundsystem.
I am hearing it OUTSIDE the car; only opening the door to the garage and staring at the front of the car from 6-8 feet away. The car is NOT "on" (other than what it does while being plugged in).

Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:35 pm
by kolmstead
GroundLoop is probably right; I hear the same sound from headsets at work when somebody's cell phone is too close to the headset cable. But it isn't the "audio" system; it happens even when audio is turned off. It could be the pedestrian warning system, or one of the other systems equipped with speakers. This car has more beeps, cheeps and chimes than any three cars need. I haven't noticed it from outside the car (too noisy out there?), but it seems to be coming from behind the dash when I'm inside.

Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:15 pm
by DaveinOlyWA
I hear it in my headset when my ph receives a text msg...weird

Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:48 pm
by ahagge
mogur wrote:Do we actually know what OS the LEAF uses or is it an industrial-specific coding and not a true OS at all?
garygid wrote:I suspect few have described the boot-up time for an MS OS as "fast", although occasionally one hears "faster than". :lol:
My understanding is that it is indeed a Windows variant (at least for the Nav system)...Heaven help us all! :(

Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:03 pm
by garygid
Perhaps a MS Automotive OS?

Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:53 am
by evnow
ahagge wrote: My understanding is that it is indeed a Windows variant (at least for the Nav system)...Heaven help us all! :(
Same Windows Automotive that highly accliamed Ford Sync is based on.

Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:32 am
by garygid
Does the LEAF use Windows Embedded Automotive 7?

Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:35 am
by LEAFer
LEAFer wrote:
GroundLoop wrote:
kolmstead wrote: ... when I ask Carwings for an update, I hear a little 'rotta rotta' sound from behind the dash.... There's absolutely no reason for a cellular modem to make noise, but my LEAF's does.
What you're probably hearing is the GSM traffic burst being picked up by the car's audio amplifiers and soundsystem.
(We are wandering OT ...) I am hearing it OUTSIDE the car; only opening the door to the garage and staring at the front of the car from 6-8 feet away.
I recorded the sounds while doing two actions on the car. It's definitely MUCH louder inside than outside. So what I am hearing outside is strong enough to filter into the quiet garage from the inside. And, yes I agree, sounds like a GSM cell phone near a stereo system. I have heard this sound at someones house even with the audio system turned off while his GSM cell was very nearby a speaker.

Re: LEAF won't go into Drive

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:09 pm
by LEAFguy
kolmstead wrote:Right as usual, guys. I just tried it again. Foot on brake, turn on power, read SOC. Try to turn off, and you just get beeped at. Take big foot off brake, and car shuts off normally.
Nissan has used an Intelligent Key with push button start in many of their vehicles for many years. Nissan programs the usage for typical user's behaviors - such as starting your car and driving it. The behavior that you described above is not typical. The reason the car did not turn off when you pressed the button is because it is programmed to not turn off in that scenario. Think of it like this - you start your car and start driving. Someone accidently pushes the start/stop button. You really don't want the car to be turned off while you are driving, so pushing the button once will not turn off the car while it is in motion. (I realize that you were not moving in the above scenario, but again, more typical is to start the car and drive away which is what the programming is designed to accommodate.)

Let's say that you are driving and there is an emergency that requires you to turn off the car while it is in motion. Pressing the button once will not turn off the car. It could have been an accidental touch. Pressing the button three times in rapid succession, (as in, I REALLY NEED TO TURN THIS CAR OFF NOW!) would work. Also, just pressing and holding the start/stop button down for 2 seconds will work. Some other manufacturer's offer just one or the other alternative as a panic shut off mode. Nissan says either should work so that is how it's programmed. All of these are discussed in the quick reference guide as well as the owner's manual.

Actually, starting the car is pretty simple too - step on the brake and push the start button. It is unfortunate that it seems if you do these in reverse order strange things happen. Then again, Japanese engineers probably don't think that people will push the start button, then step on the brake.