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Re: "Stop Vehicle" message on dash

Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:22 pm

Well, at least we'll have something to knock around other than just Volts now!
derkraut wrote:Hey; I'm an old, simple, conservative type of guy; and I'm really beginning to have reservations about this car. I mean--almost every day when I peruse this forum, I read about a new "issue".

If this was a new ICE vehicle, it would probably be classified a pending "lemon" by now. :( :o
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Re: "Stop Vehicle" message on dash

Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:45 pm

Keep in mind watching posts in a forum is not a good way to determine reliability of a new vehicle! For every problem you might see reported, you can assume there's some high number of good experiences that aren't.

You will likely see almost all the real problems and then some (that aren't really problems) reported here.
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Re: "Stop Vehicle" message on dash

Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:49 pm

Ingineer wrote:Keep in mind watching posts in a forum is not a good way to determine reliability of a new vehicle! For every problem you might see reported, you can assume there's some high number of good experiences that aren't.

You will likely see almost all the real problems and then some (that aren't really problems) reported here.
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Re: "Stop Vehicle" message on dash

Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:50 pm

Absolutely right. Same goes for product reviews on retailer websites. There's really only two kinds of people who are going to post, those who are fanboys and absolutely love the product, or those who have had bad luck and are really pissed about it. As Ingineer said, for every post/review you see on either side of that spectrum, there's easily 10x as many people in the middle who are perfectly happy and not posting at all.

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Re: "Stop Vehicle" message on dash

Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:07 pm

dyhopper wrote:The "expert" is coming from California and will be here tomorrow afternoon. My Blink install is actually Thursday and is not a media event, as far as I know. He just said they'd have a camera there to record the install. There actually is a big media event next week at my house though. I better have the Leaf back by then! PDXLeafer, I assume you turned these guys down for this event? I can't think of any reason that it would be at my place instead of yours, except maybe I happened to be there when they called.
The problem started this morning after being in a nice dry garage all night, so I doubt it's rain related. But, who knows.
Yeah, they did call and ask and I did turn it down. Had enough media for a while :)
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Re: "Stop Vehicle" message on dash

Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:58 pm

Sounds like they actually sent 3-4 guys up from California to check out the car. Still hopeful that it is a quick and easy fix, but I suspect it will be a few days. :cry: At least we know they are taking these problems seriously.

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Re: "Stop Vehicle" message on dash

Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:55 pm

Bookmarked this topic--I really want to hear how this comes out.

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Re: "Stop Vehicle" message on dash

Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:24 am

2nd problem reported out of maybe 100 cars...2% fallout? any word of any problems reported by people not on this forum?
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Re: "Stop Vehicle" message on dash

Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:36 am

derkraut wrote:Hey; I'm an old, simple, conservative type of guy; and I'm really beginning to have reservations about this car. I mean--almost every day when I peruse this forum, I read about a new "issue".

If this was a new ICE vehicle, it would probably be classified a pending "lemon" by now. :( :o

the BIGGEST role of this forum is to share issues and experiences but mostly as a learning experience which means the issues will primarily be of two areas; discovery and non-discovery. i can EASILY overwhelm this forum with everything that is right about this car, but we dont really want to hear that. we want to know what i found that does not work, or should work differently.

dont be thrown by bug reports. remember for every issue, there are hundreds of "issue-free" incidents. also, remember this is a new car and will have problems. some will fall thru the cracks. the only thing that really matters (as long as issues do not affect a significant # of cars and so far it has not) is what Nissan does to address the issue.

to insure a great product launch, i believe they will bend over backwards to make the customer happy. the last thing they need right now is an unhappy customer crowing about how their issue could not be fixed. so, one way or another, Nissan will have the customer happy. now there is always the possibility that there is a problem and Nissan cant fix it. i think that possibility is very remote.

but the key thing is having owners with the issues, reporting as many details as they can so we can understand the process and what we might expect.
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Re: "Stop Vehicle" message on dash

Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:35 am

Well said!!! The fact that Nissan sent three or four experts from Ca. to Oregon to "fix" the Leaf says a great deal about Nissan`s commitment to doing things right.

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