elektra369
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2011 Leaf OCS sensor failing, class action

Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:05 pm

I'm considering starting a class action lawsuit because I was told by Nissan that they won't be able to replace the OCS sensor that has failed in my 2011 Nissan Leaf without replacing the entire seat, which will cost me a minimum of $2700 just for the seat itself, never mind labor. It's ridiculous that the 2013-2015 Nissan Leafs have been part of the recall, but ours hasn't. Nissan itself (I called and spoke to a lovely customer service agent who tried to get me a courtesy replacement) said that he totally agreed with me, and that his hands were tied. I'm guessing that they need to have a few deaths due to airbags not deploying before they'd be willing to do a recall. Probably they moved the OCS sensor in later models so they don't need to replace the entire seat, which is why they'd be willing to get those done. Just not 2011 and maybe 2012.

I know I'm not the only one who has had this issue after doing a bunch of research online. I just need to find others so a class action would be viable.

Please post here if you're having this issue and I can figure out whether I can move this forward.

Thanks.

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Re: 2011 Leaf OCS sensor failing, class action

Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:51 pm

As you said you found others online with the same issue on their 2011 Nissan LEAFs, you've likely found this one already, but posting it just in case:

http://www.arfc.org/complaints/2011/nissan/leaf/

Looks like someone already successfully sued Nissan and got a settlement:

https://legalnewsline.com/stories/51062 ... ger-airbag

https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/cas ... erica,_Inc
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Re: 2011 Leaf OCS sensor failing, class action

Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:07 am

elektra369 wrote:I'm considering starting a class action lawsuit because I was told by Nissan that they won't be able to replace the OCS sensor that has failed in my 2011 Nissan Leaf without replacing the entire seat, which will cost me a minimum of $2700 just for the seat itself, never mind labor. It's ridiculous that the 2013-2015 Nissan Leafs have been part of the recall, but ours hasn't. Nissan itself (I called and spoke to a lovely customer service agent who tried to get me a courtesy replacement) said that he totally agreed with me, and that his hands were tied. I'm guessing that they need to have a few deaths due to airbags not deploying before they'd be willing to do a recall. Probably they moved the OCS sensor in later models so they don't need to replace the entire seat, which is why they'd be willing to get those done. Just not 2011 and maybe 2012.

I know I'm not the only one who has had this issue after doing a bunch of research online. I just need to find others so a class action would be viable.

Please post here if you're having this issue and I can figure out whether I can move this forward.

Thanks.
I am also having this issue on my Leaf, and had exactly the same experience that you did. I keep meaning to report it to safercar.gov. I will go do that. I am likely not willing to join a class action suit, but you can drop me a private message if you want to chat. I can certainly provide a supporting example that this is not a one-off defect.
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Re: 2011 Leaf OCS sensor failing, class action

Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:09 am

Information on my vehicle was filed on safercar.gov here:
https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls?nhtsaId=11103556

Best of luck getting your issue resolved.
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Re: 2011 Leaf OCS sensor failing, class action

Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:17 am

I've owned our 10/2013 manufactured LEAF since 12/2016. I have not had any recalls performed and the Nissan website reports no open recalls or campaigns. So I either missed a recall, the recall is partial, or OP's information is incorrect.
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Re: 2011 Leaf OCS sensor failing, class action

Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:01 pm

SageBrush wrote:I've owned our 10/2013 manufactured LEAF since 12/2016. I have not had any recalls performed and the Nissan website reports no open recalls or campaigns. So I either missed a recall, the recall is partial, or OP's information is incorrect.
Here's a press release on the recalled OCS sensors for 2013-2016:
https://www.aboutlawsuits.com/nissan-ai ... ls-100157/

Recall campaign number: 16V244000
https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2013/NISS ... WD#recalls

I have no idea if it only affected certain cars from those years, or all of them.
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Re: 2011 Leaf OCS sensor failing, class action

Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:58 pm

My 2013 Leaf had two or three recalls. Two for the OCS, IIRC, and one for the OBC.
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Re: 2011 Leaf OCS sensor failing - FOUND A TEMP FIX

Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:37 am

I found a solution, or at least a workaround, for the problem with the failing OCS sensor. It would work on any car.

There's a part that is available through the website below that keeps your airbags on all the time. It's an easy fix - remove the part that is in the car and plug this one in instead. I just received mine yesterday, plugged it in, and was dismayed to see the light still on. I visited my wonderful mechanic, who plugged the car into a little device and turned off the flashing lights. Then he tested the sensor - yup! It's working!

The only teeny negative is that the passenger seat belt light is on all the time, as well as another warning light to tell me there's a problem. Those lights go off when I plug in my passenger seat belt.

The part is less than $100 with tax. Way better than the $3000 for a seat replacement.

https://airbag360.com/nissan-leaf--occu ... -578-p.asp

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Re: 2011 Leaf OCS sensor failing - FOUND A TEMP FIX

Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:32 pm

elektra369 wrote:I found a solution, or at least a workaround, for the problem with the failing OCS sensor. It would work on any car.

There's a part that is available through the website below that keeps your airbags on all the time. It's an easy fix - remove the part that is in the car and plug this one in instead. I just received mine yesterday, plugged it in, and was dismayed to see the light still on. I visited my wonderful mechanic, who plugged the car into a little device and turned off the flashing lights. Then he tested the sensor - yup! It's working!

The only teeny negative is that the passenger seat belt light is on all the time, as well as another warning light to tell me there's a problem. Those lights go off when I plug in my passenger seat belt.

The part is less than $100 with tax. Way better than the $3000 for a seat replacement.

https://airbag360.com/nissan-leaf--occu ... -578-p.asp
elektra369:

It's a good fix, with a few downsides:
1) The passenger airbag will always deploy in a crash, potentially causing injury to children in the front seat. Note: Children should not be located in the front seat anyway.
2) The passenger airbag will always deploy in a crash, potentially causing a dispute with your insurance company because it may cost more to repair in a non-total loss situation, or reduce the valuation of the car in a total loss situation.
3) IANAL, but I believe selling your car with this device installed is illegal under Federal and most State laws because it would be altering a vehicle safety system. I would personally recommend removing it before selling the car.
4) IANAL, but I believe it is NOT illegal under Federal law to install this device on your own car, however, certain states DO have criminal statues for this. You can get 1 year jail time and a $5000 fine in CA for installing such a device, for instance. [1] My state doesn't prevent owners from installing such a device on their own vehicle.

You can also buy a clip on ebay for ~$5 that you can plug into the passenger seatbelt slot so you don't have to use the actual seat belt to disable the warning. These are typically made for idiots (ie: people who don't want to wear seatbelts while driving). Yes, I just did call everyone who doesn't wear a seatbelt while driving an idiot. No, I'm not sorry. Wear your seatbelt.

[1] https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/vehicle-co ... 27317.html


Another inexpensive option would be to buy a seat from a wrecked Leaf on LKQ and install it. The seats attach with 4 bolts and are not hard to replace. You MUST make sure you get a seat with a non-deployed & functioning side airbag, and it must match your car's heated seat option. The seat would then have to be programmed by a Nissan dealer because the airbag will have to be paired to the car.
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Re: 2011 Leaf OCS sensor failing - FOUND A TEMP FIX

Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:06 pm

Lothsahn wrote:These are typically made for idiots (ie: people who don't want to wear seatbelts while driving). Yes, I just did call everyone who doesn't wear a seatbelt while driving an idiot.
They are NOT idiots.

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