## Carwings miles/kwh figures higher than Leaf's by 10% to 35%

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### Re: Carwings miles/kwh figures higher than Leaf's by 10% to 35%

DaveinOlyWA wrote:Well my latest theory is that it seems I am only accessing around 21 kwh based on info from car. Well we have been told it should be 24 kwh. So guessing car error is the same so recomputing efficiency based on multiplying car figures by 21/24 then determining efficincy which should bring me to the mid to upper 80's which should. Be about right.
First charge to 80%. Then charge to 100% - you know how much it will be to get from 80% to 100%. That should be 4.8 kwh if 24kwh is right.

My calculation shows that using figures much less than 24 kwh gives unrealistic numbers.
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### Re: Carwings miles/kwh figures higher than Leaf's by 10% to 35%

Hello,
When my car charges to 80% it says 83% on carwings.
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planet4ever
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### Re: Carwings miles/kwh figures higher than Leaf's by 10% to 35%

So when did CarWings stop lying? I believe it is just telling you how many bars are lit. 83% is just its pretentious way of saying 10 bars.
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### Re: Carwings miles/kwh figures higher than Leaf's by 10% to 35%

planet4ever wrote:...I believe it is just telling you how many bars are lit. 83% is just its pretentious way of saying 10 bars.
Yeah, funny - the car won't tell us a simple %SOC figure, carwings will but it's just the number of bars divided by 12. Guess the car won't even enlighten carwings its SOC. Must be on a need-to-know basis.
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### Re: Carwings miles/kwh figures higher than Leaf's by 10% to 35%

DeaneG wrote:Must be on a need-to-know basis.
Seems like that - given how secretive Nissan has been about the total capacity. Infact they won't even tell us whether 24 kwh is total or usable.
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