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Re: Nissan: restart problems reported in Leaf electric cars

Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:15 pm

[/quote]Would you have turned off your ICE car in the middle of traffic if the check engine light had come on?[/quote]

Yes, but probably wouldn't have seen the light hidden behind the electrical tape I placed over it 80k miles ago. ;)
I guess my comment was a general one about how some of us view and react to warning lights.
I believe they did away with the complex terror alert warning system because no one had the same idea of what to do for each shade of terror.
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Re: Nissan: restart problems reported in Leaf electric cars

Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:17 pm

Anyone that sees a warning light and then turns the car on and off at a traffic signal lacks common sense. This issue is getting overblown and beaten to death, if you have an issue get it fixed and move on.

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Re: Nissan: restart problems reported in Leaf electric cars

Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:34 pm

Woo hoo, I'm famous! :oops:

Thank goodness CNBC was fair and balanced in their writeup and chose a benign quote...

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Re: Nissan: restart problems reported in Leaf electric cars

Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:42 pm

Right. Everyone always consults the owner's manual every time they have a problem with their car... If they can even find it! And certainly WHILE they are driving!

Human nature is to turn something off and back on - or just off - if suddenly confronted with a number of warnings. As soon as you do that you are toast as it will not restart.

ICE cars have been recalled in the past for less serious similar issues than this... At the very least, Nissan should have contacted every current owner to apprise them of the situation and advise of them of what Nissan is doing to correct it. So far, I'm not impressed with how Nissan has handled this, or more appropriately, not handled it, and I don't think it augers well for the future....
davewill wrote:Would you have turned off your ICE car in the middle of traffic if the check engine light had come on?
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Re: Nissan: restart problems reported in Leaf electric cars

Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:44 pm

That was not you...it was GEEKev and not GeekEV. I suspect it was somebody named Kevin. Gee Kevin, I did not know you bought a new car.
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Re: Nissan: restart problems reported in Leaf electric cars

Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:53 pm

davewill wrote:Would you have turned off your ICE car in the middle of traffic if the check engine light had come on?
I've had my indicator come on showing that my vehicle was overheating, you can bet that I pulled off the road before I turned off the car to inspect the situation. No way I would have done that in the middle of the road! :D
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Re: Nissan: restart problems reported in Leaf electric cars

Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:53 pm

palmermd wrote:That was not you...it was GEEKev and not GeekEV. I suspect it was somebody named Kevin. Gee Kevin, I did not know you bought a new car.
Yeah, I was bummed once I realized that. Kevin had the EXACT thing to say as I did - what are the odds?!?! :lol:

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Re: Nissan: restart problems reported in Leaf electric cars

Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:45 pm

jamesanne wrote:A reasonable person would pull off the road and evaluate what is occurring, consult available documentation (owner's manual), and possible use the included roadside assistance.
From page 6-4 Stopping the vehicle
1. Safely move the vehicle off the road and away from traffic...
mogur wrote:Right. Everyone always consults the owner's manual every time they have a problem with their car... If they can even find it! And certainly WHILE they are driving!
Do not miss quote and obscure what I have written. I suggest you take responsibility for your own comments that made the news today. Comparing a restart safety system activation to Toyotas uncontrolled acceleration, where people died, is irresponsible and grandiose. I have been quite disappointed in the many assumptions and exaggerations that are made by some in this forum. Common sense goes a long way, if you are having a problem contact Nissan. Turning the car off and on, disconnecting the battery, doing the hokey pokey, performing an exorcism, etc are not likely to fix the problem. When I spend $35k+ on a new car, when there is a problem I bring it in so that it can be fixed.

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Re: Nissan: restart problems reported in Leaf electric cars

Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:25 pm

palmermd wrote:That was not you...it was GEEKev and not GeekEV. I suspect it was somebody named Kevin. Gee Kevin, I did not know you bought a new car.
palmermd,

Your name is in Japanese newspaper site.
http://www.nikkei.com/tech/trend/articl ... E2E2E0E2E0

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Re: Nissan: restart problems reported in Leaf electric cars

Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:34 pm

mogur wrote:The fact that Nissan is saying that it is not a safety issue reeks of BS though... That may come back to bite them on the ass ala Toyota!
According to a poster at ABG ...
Recalls are required whenever a vehicle or piece of original equipment are found to be defective in such a fashion as to be unsafe, or if found to be non-compliant with safety regulations. Federal reg. 49 CFR 573 is the authority here.

In the Leaf's case, the inability to start the car is not considered unsafe, as pointed out in the article - so there is no need for a recall to be initiated.
While anyone can cookup a scenario that results in serious injury for anything benign - this isn't a safety issue under normal circumstances - unlike unintended acceleration would be.
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