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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:35 pm

Shrink are you having any issue with you 2012 Leaf?
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:11 pm

An Early Autumn For A Nissan Leaf Owner In Texas
PUBLISHED JULY 26, 2012 - BY JEFF COBB
http://www.hybridcars.com/news/early-au ... 49026.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:21 pm

scottf200 wrote:An Early Autumn For A Nissan Leaf Owner In Texas
PUBLISHED JULY 26, 2012 - BY JEFF COBB
http://www.hybridcars.com/news/early-au ... 49026.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You beat me to it Scott. I just read this very interesting and disturbing article. I think this is Pipcecil's car.
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:37 pm

Gonewild wrote:Shrink are you having any issue with you 2012 Leaf?
No, but it's only 1-month old and has 800+ miles on it.
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:48 pm

You will, How about your first Leaf. Did you see any?
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:59 pm

http://www.hybridcars.com/news/early-au ... 49026.html
“All-in-all I am pretty disappointed. Here is an analogy I gave my wife when she asked me how I felt about it: You are a kid and have your favorite sports idol. You watch him in every game, you follow every news article and interview, you know his every stat for his sport off the top of your head, you even buy his jerseys and bobbleheads. You send him letters every month! He is your idol, he his your hero, for years. Now he is making a special appearance at your local mall. You plan the basic mall trip for weeks and are so giddy you can't even sleep that night. When you finally get to the mall you see your hero unshaved, drunk, stumbling, and shouting obscenities at people waiting to see him. He is belligerent and refuses to sign your favorite poster/card that you brought. Your once perfect, pristine hero picture has been utterly destroyed. You are not angry, sad, upset, you are beyond that ... just complete ... utter ... disappointment. On your way out you toss the poster you brought in the trash and proceed to clean your room out of his stuff you accumulated, never to watch him on TV again or look him up. That’s how I feel ... betrayed by my hero.”

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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:00 pm

Gonewild wrote:You will, How about your first Leaf. Did you see any?
Oh yes, I did!

I'm on the wiki and on the list maintained here. I lost my 1st capacity bar on the 2011 after 10-1/2 months and 10,200 miles. Took it to the dealer the next day and got a a perfect battery information sheet (5/5 stars of all measures). My service record also said that 11 capacity bars was "normal."
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:02 pm

EdmondLeaf wrote:http://www.hybridcars.com/news/early-au ... 49026.html
“All-in-all I am pretty disappointed. Here is an analogy I gave my wife when she asked me how I felt about it: You are a kid and have your favorite sports idol. You watch him in every game, you follow every news article and interview, you know his every stat for his sport off the top of your head, you even buy his jerseys and bobbleheads. You send him letters every month! He is your idol, he his your hero, for years. Now he is making a special appearance at your local mall. You plan the basic mall trip for weeks and are so giddy you can't even sleep that night. When you finally get to the mall you see your hero unshaved, drunk, stumbling, and shouting obscenities at people waiting to see him. He is belligerent and refuses to sign your favorite poster/card that you brought. Your once perfect, pristine hero picture has been utterly destroyed. You are not angry, sad, upset, you are beyond that ... just complete ... utter ... disappointment. On your way out you toss the poster you brought in the trash and proceed to clean your room out of his stuff you accumulated, never to watch him on TV again or look him up. That’s how I feel ... betrayed by my hero.”
SO TRUE :evil:
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:03 pm

scottf200 wrote:An Early Autumn For A Nissan Leaf Owner In Texas
PUBLISHED JULY 26, 2012 - BY JEFF COBB
http://www.hybridcars.com/news/early-au ... 49026.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That article mentioned someone losing 50% of there range? I've never heard of that. 4 bars was the most, right? Does that equate to 50%?
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:09 pm

lemketron wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Valdemar wrote:Oh boy, this thread has definitely beaten all records by the amount of speculation contained. Just to throw one more into the mix, does anyone think that all these issues may be related to a bad batch of batteries?
no
Agreed. I think it's more likely that a fix (or some solution) is in the works (perhaps also in the 2013 car, possibly from TN, or not), but given the ultimate cost of deploying that fix to existing cars in the field, they would likely want to take their time in testing it to ensure they only have to fix it ONCE and for all...

There's no fix in the works because there's nothing but "normal" degradation. They are only in the past few days looking into allegations from 5 or 6 Phoenix LEAFs. Or, you can use the micro-teeny 0.000003% or the 30,000 LEAFs sold.

So again, there's no current fix because they have yet to identify anything beyond normal degradation. Here's the response from Nissan when questioned in the article linked above:


We don’t yet have enough information to answer many of your questions. While we are concerned about any individual Leaf owner who has a less-than-stellar customer experience, fortunately, our data shows these cases to be minimal. We hope to share information soon from our investigation of this handful of vehicles.

Folks, the setup is being played.
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