i think 6 is fine.Stoaty wrote:Guidelines for purchase or lease added to Wiki section on battery capacity:
"Guidelines suggested by Weatherman on whether the Leaf is likely to experience temperature related accelerated battery capacity loss in your area:
If you almost always see five bars or less on the battery temperature gage, and it only gets up to six bars a handful of times each summer... Don't worry about it.
If you see five bars or less during the winter half of the year, and fairly often see six bars during the summer half... You probably are going to see the loss claimed by Nissan (20% loss at 5 years and 30% loss at 10 years).
If seeing six bars is common for a large part of the year, and a seventh bar pops up occasionally during the summer months... Don't consider buying. Lease would be OK.
If you spend a large part of the summer with seven temperature bars or more showing... It's probably best to avoid the Leaf completely. Consider an EV with an active thermal management system or the Chevy Volt."
You can inquire on the forum how many battery temperature bars others who live in your area are typically seeing.
There's, definitely, a lot of mischief that can hide in that sixth bar.thankyouOB wrote:i think 6 is fine.
My car hasn't seen 5 bars in probably 2 months - and then it was only briefly in the morning a couple times. It's probably been 3 months since the battery has held at 5 bars for any significant time.Weatherman wrote:I'm sure a lot of people will see six bars every summer afternoon and evening, but will it drop to five bars at night. It might even stay at six bars for 24-hours a day for a few days during the summer. Southern California coastal residents can correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like that's pretty typical for that area.
I think you find it more difficult to analyze the Texas data. For example, Houston has a more average temperature being next to the coast, summers don't get as hot elsewhere, but don't get as cool either, getting more of a warm/hot coastal feel. Then when you look at people living in the urban areas of Dallas-Fort Worth/San Antonio/Austin you may get a more localized "heat island" effect versus those living in the surburbs that could see a more cooling since Texas cities are very spread out.Stoaty wrote:I analyzed the Leafs in Texas that lost a capacity bar, but didn't find a correlation with monthly mileage and rate of capacity (correlation coefficient = 0.013). Perhaps this was due to there being too few Leafs in the sample with a few outliers, or maybe the climate varies enough between the various cities to allow for a meaningful comparison. Interestingly, the average rate of capacity loss was 1.2% per month, similar to the average 1.3% per month seen in the Phoenix metro area sample (latter not previously reported, I believe).
I live 3 blocks from the ocean in the coolest microclimate in SD and we have also spent the last several months at predominately 6 TBs. Never seen 7 yet, but 5 bars have not been seen on our car for some time now.drees wrote:My car hasn't seen 5 bars in probably 2 months - and then it was only briefly in the morning a couple times. It's probably been 3 months since the battery has held at 5 bars for any significant time.
I live about 4 miles from the ocean.
I work about 7-8 miles from the ocean.
I highly doubt anyone in San Diego has seen 5 bars much in the last 2 months unless they live within a mile of the ocean and park outside, or live further inland where it cools down more at night and they park outside at night.
drees wrote:My car hasn't seen 5 bars in probably 2 months - and then it was only briefly in the morning a couple times. It's probably been 3 months since the battery has held at 5 bars for any significant time.