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RegGuheert
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:37 pm

Stanton wrote:What were the start/end dates for the 2011? Your 2013 obviously benefited from only ONE summer season.
One year only contains one summer, no matter when it starts.
Stanton wrote:In either case, you could make the argument that 4% (or maybe 3% by the time you hit your year) is within the "noise" tolerance; in other words, no real change/improvement in battery chemistry (at least not until the "hot pack").
Agreed. The bigger factor is that the summer of 2011 was hotter than the summer of 2013. So 20% loss in 2011 versus 16% loss in 2013 is simply not a real improvement.
RegGuheert
2011 Leaf SL Demo vehicle
10K mi. on 041413; 20K mi. (55.7Ah) on 080714; 30K mi. (52.0Ah) on 123015; 40K mi. (49.8Ah) on 020817; 50K mi. (47.2Ah) on 120717; 60K mi. (43.66Ah) on 091918.
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ILETRIC
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:45 pm

uwskier20 wrote:Lost my first capacity bar today.
Get used to the new look when you charge up. Like a tooth missing... Took me a while to get used to it. Now, of course, I want 2 more gone (see signature).

But that's a whole another story.
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1st bar lost at 38,700 miles/22 months
2nd bar lost at 45,750 miles/27 months

Traded-in on 10-19-2014 at 56,150 miles
-------------> for Kia Soul EV+ <-------------

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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:08 pm

^^^ That second came fast. Good luck on the next two.
1 bar lost at 21,451 miles, 16 months.
2 bar lost at 35,339 miles, 25 months.
LEAF traded at 45,400 miles for a RAV4-EV
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:46 pm

ILETRIC wrote:
uwskier20 wrote:Get used to the new look when you charge up. Like a tooth missing... Took me a while to get used to it. Now, of course, I want 2 more gone (see signature).
Yeah, I usually like to look at the gauge with regard to how many bars of charge I've used, and used the capacity tick marks as a way of quickly saying I have, say, 8 out of 12 bars left. Now, without that 12th CB, I'll have to re-calibrate the manner in which I read the display. It'll take a while.

I'd love to get to a point where I'd be covered by the 60K/60mo battery capacity warranty, but it won't happen, since it simply doesn't get hot enough here. Best I can do is see what Nissan offers us with the battery-stealing, renting, leasing, or whatever-you-call-it program. :roll:
'11 SL-e #1123, 5/18/11-7/5/14. Final stats 6/29/14: 54,591; 11/12 BB; 52.74Ahr.
'14 SL #337748, delivered 7/5/14. Stats: 112; 12/12 BB; 63.33 Ahr.

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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:03 am

enough info here for a 2 bar and 3 bar entry, not sure if it is there yet, the web filter on my work connection now blocks the wiki as 'Suspicious' so i won't be able to update the wiki in my down time any more. I'm just not willing to fight the copy/paste/edit hassle on a 4" screen on my phone. If no one else picks it up I might come back to it days/weeks later.

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=16085" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
sksingh wrote:Lost my third bar this morning [edit by dhanson865 on the 9th, the post was from Sat Mar 8th 2014], here are the details:

Mileage: 35989
AHr: 47.47
SOH: 72%
Hx: 65.77%
QC: 16
L1/L2: 1726

This is what I had to do to counter this loss:

1. Limit my max driving speed to 65 mph
2. Try to drive at 55 mph when possible
3. Skip driving to lunch
4. Avoid carpool lanes whenever possible

With careful driving I commute 46 miles RT without VLB warning.

Bars: 10 July2013
Mileage: 29,478 (30Aug2013)
La Mirada, CA
Blue 2012 Leaf 195/65/15 tires, 15" Rims
Silver 2012 Leaf 16" stock wheels
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/wiki/index. ... acity_Loss
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Stanton
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:40 am

Just noticed I lost my second capacity bar sometime this weekend.

Capacity = 50.3545
Health = 57.53
175 GIDs @79%

Thought I would lose it when the weather got warmer, and I guess it got (a little) warmer. I don't think I'll have any trouble qualifying for a new battery under warranty sometime next year.
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:08 am

Stanton wrote:Just noticed I lost my second capacity bar sometime this weekend.

Capacity = 50.3545
Health = 57.53
175 GIDs @79%

Thought I would lose it when the weather got warmer, and I guess it got (a little) warmer. I don't think I'll have any trouble qualifying for a new battery under warranty sometime next year.
Stanton,
How long was it between the loss of your first and second bars?
Vicki
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:52 pm

Second Bar went "poof" yesterday at 33,301 miles. Still love it and the car does everything I need it to.
Every start, is as good as any start can ever be. - Douglas Darden

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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:16 pm

vrwl wrote: Stanton,
How long was it between the loss of your first and second bars?
Last summer, so about 9 months. I can't believe I didn't make a blog post about it, but I took the dates from pics of the LeafDD display on my website.
2011 Blue Ocean SV w/floor mats & window tint
Lithium Pros 12v LiFePO4 battery w/Antigravity Battery Tracker
FIAMM 74100 horns
Wet Okole seat covers
Tor's low-power heater mod
2013 sun visor
Battery Pack replaced (Rev E) @51 months and 41k miles

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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:09 pm

Stanton wrote:
vrwl wrote: Stanton,
How long was it between the loss of your first and second bars?
Last summer, so about 9 months. I can't believe I didn't make a blog post about it, but I took the dates from pics of the LeafDD display on my website.
Well, we're permanently leaving Texas for northeast Pennsylvania in 2 weeks, so I'm REALLY hoping the cooler weather puts a drastic crimp in the speed of bar losses on my car. Since I just lost my first bar a month and a half ago, I'm hoping the second bar might not happen until maybe the summer of 2015. (crossing fingers)
Vicki
2011 Silver SL-Mfg 8/11-Purch 6/12
34000 miles

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