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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:06 am
by cwerdna
DesertDenizen wrote:If I lived in a hot climate, which I do, I would much rather have the 2015 Lizard chemistry. For you northerners, the 2013 tweaks look really great!

I live in Tucson and have a 2015 SL. My dealer who did my lease said she never heard of Lizard battery. Just what is it, and what does it do? Thanks so much.
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:27 am
by ahagge
As a followup to this post:
ahagge wrote:LEAF # 5175 (delivered: 07/02/11) lost its 4th capacity bar on March 27th:

GIDS: 177
SOC: 91.75
AHr: 43.191
Hx: 44.74
SOH: 65
Mileage: 58,995

I've opened a case with Nissan Customer service and will be visiting my local dealer tomorrow to get the battery report to document the case and give them the authorization to order the new battery and retrofit kit.
I'm happy to report that after a 4 week wait, my new battery has been installed and I now have all 12 capacity bars back. :D Here's the stats from my old battery just before I went to the dealership for the swap (and yes, the numbers DID actually climb up a bit from previous readings, but I never regained the 9th capacity bar):

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GIDS: 183
SOC: 94.38
AHr: 43.296
Hx: 44.9
SOH: 66
Mileage: 60,351
And with the new pack:

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GIDS: 270
SOC: 90.173
AHr: 66.14
Hx: 100.4
SOH: 100
Mileage: 60,465
I'm hopeful that these numbers will climb a bit as the battery pack gets a few charges on it, and that it eventually makes it back up to at least 281, if not closer to the 290 that some of the 2015 drivers are reporting. If anyone's interested, I'll post another update in a month or so.

Now to get another entry in the 100+ mile club!

Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 3:27 pm
by mwalsh
mwalsh wrote:Although we believe that bar 9 could disappear at around 43.25AHr on the high side, I can't find anyone who has actually lost it at that reading. ahagee's 43.19AHr is the highest reported I can actually find with a search, with brettcgb's 41.77AHr being the lowest reported.
Spread now 43.56 AHr (jpvleaf) on the high side and 41.77 AHr (brettcgb) on the low side.

Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 9:09 am
by dhanson865
I updated the wiki to add a Model Year column so we can mark the 2013 and newer as they come in. I need help finding entries that haven't been added yet and adding model years if you already have an entry.

Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:58 am
by TomT
Here are mine when I dropped the fourth bar on 13Mar2015:

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GIDS: 187
AHr: 43.47
SOH: 66%
HX: 45.29%
Mileage: 59,983
And with the new pack on 22May2015 shortly after I got the car back on 7May2015:

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GIDS: 291
AHr: 68.74
SOH: 103%
Hx: 102.64%
Mileage: 60,221
Battery part number rev: F

Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:58 am
by QueenBee
dhanson865 wrote:I updated the wiki to add a Model Year column so we can mark the 2013 and newer as they come in. I need help finding entries that haven't been added yet and adding model years if you already have an entry.
I wish LEAFSpy would be automatically uploading data so there was no manual reporting of this stuff.

Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 12:10 pm
by dgpcolorado
TomT wrote:...And with the new pack on 22May2015 shortly after I got the car back on 7May2015:

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GIDS: 291
AHr: 68.74
SOH: 103%
Hx: 102.64%
Mileage: 60,221
Battery part number rev: F
68.74 Ahrs, wow!

I thought you were going to get rid of your LEAF at lease end. Chose otherwise?

Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 12:27 pm
by 91040
Interesting. We both have the same climate. So my higher mileage and/or QCs got me to the same capacity 5 months sooner. Doesn't seem like any of these batteries will last 5 years with 9 capacity bars in our climate.
TomT wrote:Here are mine when I dropped the fourth bar on 13Mar2015:

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GIDS: 187
AHr: 43.47
SOH: 66%
HX: 45.29%
Mileage: 59,983
And with the new pack on 22May2015 shortly after I got the car back on 7May2015:

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GIDS: 291
AHr: 68.74
SOH: 103%
Hx: 102.64%
Mileage: 60,221
Battery part number rev: F

Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 3:38 pm
by TomT
Yep, I planned to and actually had the turn-in date set. Two days before, I dropped the fourth bar as I backed out of the driveway at 59,983 miles... So, I thought about it a bit, and had it towed to Nissan who confirmed with corporate that I was indeed entitled to a new battery (I had opted back in earlier). I then called Nissan Finance who said I could cancel the turn-in if I wanted to and extent the lease on a month by month basis. At that point I negotiated the two months lease credit and a third month by grinding them a little since my car would be out of service for a while while the new battery was ordered and installed (they also gave me a loaner Altima)... So, I told them OK and here we are. It gives me a brand new Lizard battery, three months free, and some time to see what cars the future brings...

I am still amazed that I dropped the fourth bar just before the warranty ended at 60K as I was not expecting that based on the numbers! Geez, 17 miles short!
dgpcolorado wrote:I thought you were going to get rid of your LEAF at lease end. Chose otherwise?

Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 3:47 pm
by Stoaty
91040 wrote:Interesting. We both have the same climate. So my higher mileage and/or QCs got me to the same capacity 5 months sooner. Doesn't seem like any of these batteries will last 5 years with 9 capacity bars in our climate.
Unfortunately, not true. Four year anniversary coming up in 2 weeks, 40,000 miles, capacity - 51.31 Ah. I figure I won't drop the 4th bar for about 2 years, perhaps a bit longer. No Lizard for me, unless I decide to purchase.