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Marktm
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:02 am

SageBrush wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:17 am
Today my wife is going to check out the Bolt just in case it becomes available at dirt cheap prices in the next couple of months (~ $20k) and the LEAF can be sold for ~ $7k.
If my Leaf will continue to get me back and forth to downtown Houston for next couple of years - I'm going to be a happy camper. I put $100 down on Fenix as an "insurance policy" - almost assuredly that is not going to work out! I've considered a Bolt, but obsessed with V2G/V2H functionality and just don't see that for CCS any time soon. Might actually rethink that if the Bolt gets discounted to those levels - I like the car.
2012 Leaf SL; 46,000 miles. Battery replaced November 1st, 2016.

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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:09 am

Marktm wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:02 am
If my Leaf will continue to get me back and forth to downtown Houston for next couple of years - I'm going to be a happy camper. I put $100 down on Fenix as an "insurance policy" - almost assuredly that is not going to work out! I've considered a Bolt, but obsessed with V2G/V2H functionality and just don't see that for CCS any time soon. Might actually rethink that if the Bolt gets discounted to those levels - I like the car.
V2G/V2H is already in the next gen CCS spec so it just might happen before Tesla.

OTOH the Bolt battery is not designed for it so it might be something to think about as an emergency feature but I for one would not use a Bolt that way on a frequent basis.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/18: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/18: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
09/20: 54.3 Ahr; 38k miles
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:28 pm

SageBrush wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:09 am

V2G/V2H is already in the next gen CCS spec so it just might happen before Tesla.

OTOH the Bolt battery is not designed for it so it might be something to think about as an emergency feature but I for one would not use a Bolt that way on a frequent basis.
May be waiting for Lucid Motors for OEM V2G support, however the $20k for the Bolt would only be a down payment (if they actually produce an EV). Then there is dcbel/Leaf combination that is probably the most likely to actually function (if they ever produce a US unit). Just have to be patient.
2012 Leaf SL; 46,000 miles. Battery replaced November 1st, 2016.

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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:50 am

I've lost 7 bars, 5 left and I have almost 70,000 miles on my 2012 Nissan leaf, at full charge I range from 29-36 miles, I work 13 miles away, going I don't use as much (more downhill flat) then coming home, I'm always blinking when I pull into the driveway at night. I do have to charge at work, or I am not going home. I am hoping to make it to December or January, yeah sounds pathetic, but what do I do with it when it's not drivable ?? Paperweight for my driveway ?? Who would take it ?? bring it to pick a part ? how much do you think I can sell it for ??

S
2012 Nissan Leaf SL with QC 23,362 miles as of 3/5/15 Cayenne Red Mission Viejo, CA

Lost my 4th bar @ 49,474 miles 11-19-17

Lost my 5th bar @ 54,116 miles

Lost my 6th bar @ 61,247 miles on 7/15/19

Lost my 7th bar @ 69,158 miles on 09-19-20

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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:38 pm

When this happens (if I keep my 2012), it will be used for "suburban" errands and will charge 100% every night. I regularly take my Leaf to VLB as I'm quite confident in LeafSpy miles to 0% AND the mi/kWh setting, so I plan around that. I'm OK with this as I'm retired and have my wife's ICE vehicle for backup for any longer trips. Not for everyone.

I keep hoping that a reasonable battery exchange will eventually happen - eternal optimist?
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:03 pm

Sondy132001 wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:50 am
I've lost 7 bars, 5 left and I have almost 70,000 miles on my 2012 Nissan leaf, at full charge I range from 29-36 miles, I work 13 miles away, going I don't use as much (more downhill flat) then coming home, I'm always blinking when I pull into the driveway at night. I do have to charge at work, or I am not going home. I am hoping to make it to December or January, yeah sounds pathetic, but what do I do with it when it's not drivable ?? Paperweight for my driveway ?? Who would take it ?? bring it to pick a part ? how much do you think I can sell it for ??

S
If you still like the car consider a battery replacement. You have probably saved most of the money in reduced fuel and maintenance costs. Yes we all thought we would be money ahead with these first cars and it did not really work out that way. Replacement battery should last much longer than the original. Otherwise a trade in will just be a give away.

Honestly I would move to a different brand and get away from Nissan.
1 bar lost at 21,451 miles, 16 months.
2 bar lost at 35,339 miles, 25 months.
LEAF traded at 45,400 miles for a RAV4-EV
RAV4 traded in for I-Pace Dec 2018

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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Sun Oct 04, 2020 3:39 pm

Posted on another thread, but this is the correct thread. 2011 SL, 56,819mi, 8-bar, 40.41 AHr, 61% SOH, 40.18% Hx, 4.072V avg on LeafSpy. Original owner, traction and lead acid batteries. 3rd set of tires, one alignment, wipers, but no major repairs. Still a great in-town car. See you in 2026. -Reddy

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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:23 am

smkettner wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:03 pm
Sondy132001 wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:50 am
I've lost 7 bars, 5 left and I have almost 70,000 miles on my 2012 Nissan leaf, at full charge I range from 29-36 miles, I work 13 miles away, going I don't use as much (more downhill flat) then coming home, I'm always blinking when I pull into the driveway at night. I do have to charge at work, or I am not going home. I am hoping to make it to December or January, yeah sounds pathetic, but what do I do with it when it's not drivable ?? Paperweight for my driveway ?? Who would take it ?? bring it to pick a part ? how much do you think I can sell it for ??

S
If you still like the car consider a battery replacement. You have probably saved most of the money in reduced fuel and maintenance costs. Yes we all thought we would be money ahead with these first cars and it did not really work out that way. Replacement battery should last much longer than the original. Otherwise a trade in will just be a give away.

Honestly I would move to a different brand and get away from Nissan.
Hence why I was hoping to make it to January with it, I want an electric Kona. New battery won't give me the carpool lane so it's not worth it =) Thanks for the heads up.

Sondra
2012 Nissan Leaf SL with QC 23,362 miles as of 3/5/15 Cayenne Red Mission Viejo, CA

Lost my 4th bar @ 49,474 miles 11-19-17

Lost my 5th bar @ 54,116 miles

Lost my 6th bar @ 61,247 miles on 7/15/19

Lost my 7th bar @ 69,158 miles on 09-19-20

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