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Re: Tesla 3's to be seen at your local Chademo soon

Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:39 pm

Spammers get a free pass here because they don't get punished. Putting a 2 hour time limit on charging discourages the 'squatters.' Here we have problems with getting ICEd when EV spots are in prime locations, but very little trouble with squatters. As with many other mammalian behaviors, overcrowding aggravates existing bad behaviors*. Having opportunity charging available will remain important until almost all BEVs have 200+ miles ranges.


* Not that I'm really expecting cannibalism at public EV charging stations...
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Re: Tesla 3's to be seen at your local Chademo soon

Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:05 pm

Soooooo, Tesla just randomly decided to make the T3 compatible with chademo for no reason then? Is that what we are all saying? Cause I remember something different when it was first revealed that they couldn't use the adapter.

As good as SC is, it has a long way to go. Or better put; if you have a long way to go, SC is the tits! But if you don't, then its a crap shoot. I live in an area that has a lot of chademo and no SC. We were supposed to get SC and that is likely still on the table...the far end of the table. As it stands the Olympia/Tacoma area is barren and the options on all points of the compass simply do not work.

Twice, I helped a lost soul in their T3 on how to get level 2 working at Tacoma Mall (no plug and pay here...need to plan) It was truly amazing that so many thought the idea of registering with a 3rd party network was so alien?

We also need to look at how many people who don't have effective home charging available. With the emergence of the used EV market and the T3, there has also emerged a new EVer who trickle charges at home or can't charge at home so a "faster" boost is needed occasionally when the electron drip cannot keep up.

Curious; does anyone know how many adapters Tesla has sold?
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Re: Tesla 3's to be seen at your local Chademo soon

Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:05 pm

2hr free charging time limits are also badly abused here. Haven’t seen a free model that works yet. Not even for the business.
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Re: Tesla 3's to be seen at your local Chademo soon

Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:08 pm

iPlug wrote:2hr free charging time limits are also badly abused here. Haven’t seen a free model that works yet. Not even for the business.
They have 2 hour free level 2's at the mall COMPLETELY unenforced. I take my Son to a movie most Fridays and I plug in for that so closer to 3, sometimes nearly 4 on longer movies. They used to be overrun by T3's but guessing a lot got the car before they got home charging. It has died down quite a bit.
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Re: Tesla 3's to be seen at your local Chademo soon

Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:15 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote: Curious; does anyone know how many adapters Tesla has sold?
A few hundred if memory serves, and I'll guess the lion's share went to Canada.
Tesla just randomly decided to make the T3 compatible with chademo for no reason then?
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Re: Tesla 3's to be seen at your local Chademo soon

Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:24 pm

I think it's great news, and look forward to supporting some of the Chademo stations in our area. i first used my Chademo on a SoCal to Canada road trip several years ago, especially along the Oregon coast away from the SC network. Worked great...Adds about 64 miles per half-hour.

When I bought a Model 3, I got another Chademo adapter second hand pretty cheap and now will be able to use that in my travels...

More throughput is good for DC Fast charge stations as it helps them bring in more revenue and pay for the electric bill (which has demand charges in many areas). More charges per month helps to dilute the costs on a per charge basis....

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Re: Tesla 3's to be seen at your local Chademo soon

Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:36 pm

I purchased the CHAdeMO adaptor for my first Model S. Only had to use it a few times but back then the charging network had not really been built yet. Now the CHAdeMO network is really building out fast (PetroCanada). I suspect it will actually beat the Superchargers being built across Canada.
Having the adaptor will greatly improve my road trip planning.
I agree that very few Model 3 owners will bother paying that much for an adaptor just so they can use the free stations. We only have one CHAdeMO/CCS in Calgary and it is $20 per hour.
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Re: Tesla 3's to be seen at your local Chademo soon

Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:49 pm

If Colorado carries through with its published plans to build CCS/CHAdeMO in the rural areas I visit, the adaptor could be useful. Not so much that I would buy one at $450 but inexpensive rentals are I think available.

Or I'll buy one and rent it out for ~ $20 a week plus S&H
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Re: Tesla 3's to be seen at your local Chademo soon

Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:03 am

When towing especially, there needs to be as many options for charging as possible.
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