DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:14 am

Exactly. Honestly, I am such a conservative driver (hope my efficiency bears that out), that B regen is usually enough, but not always in city driving. I also agree that when you feather back on the accelerator carefully you can kind of feel when the friction brakes engage.

In any case, I will let you know how it goes. But given outside temps, early indications are that it does modestly improve your overall efficiency. Certainly maintaining momentum is the best, but if you have to stop...best to regen it back.
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:25 am

Feb Stats;

Have some home charging to report (NCTC ended the 16th)

miles; 1056.3
miles/kwh; 4.01
home charging cost; $3.74

Now I do have a $250 credit from EVgo and the plan was to only use it away from home since I have until Nov 16 to exhaust the credit so I signed up for the subscription plan and instead of the $7.99 being billed against the credit, the credit balance started at -257.99 and I was billed the $7.99 on my CC.

So I have decided to stop home charging and exhaust the EVgo credit ASAP to reduce the number of Monthly subscription charges. This may seem counterintuitive to many but in the "no so long run" it will save me money since EA is cheaper.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 4411.3 mi, 96.88% SOH
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:39 am

That’s pretty good winter efficiency, but I know it’s more temperate in Washington than here in Chicago. (Though this winter has been pretty warm)

I still struggle with the free DC charging vs extra wear on the battery (and convenience) with NCTC. Especially we have other free Chademos and L2s in the area as well.
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Max distance on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
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ibeckerman
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:05 am

We purchased a 2019 Leaf SV Plus in September. We live in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania in the Mid-Atlantic and store and charge the car in our garage.

Our Efficiency since purchase is as follows:
Month / Miles / Mi/Kwh
October / 572 / 4.2
November / 784 / 3.8
December / 775 / 3.3
January / 468 / 3.3
February / 690 / 3.4

Range on a charge has varied from a high of around 235 to a low of 180. It is definitely related to outdoor temperature and the amount of heating, defrosting, etc. we use on a trip.
Most of our trips are local and less than 20 miles one way.
Will keep you posted as we get into Spring and Summer.

Ira

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:18 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:39 am
That’s pretty good winter efficiency, but I know it’s more temperate in Washington than here in Chicago. (Though this winter has been pretty warm)

I still struggle with the free DC charging vs extra wear on the battery (and convenience) with NCTC. Especially we have other free Chademos and L2s in the area as well.
You get a lot more wear and tear charging to high SOC. Just finished a 26 minute DC session. Ending battery temps 70.2/70.6/71.2 That is a risk I am willing to take. ;)
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 4411.3 mi, 96.88% SOH
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:34 pm

Olympia Dave,

Quick odd question. Does the S Plus have a CD player? Do you miss the remote heating/cooling or seat warmers at all?

There are still a few S Plus 2019 models out there. My wife really wants a car with a CD player. She hates being forced into blue tooth or usb connection for android auto to play her music.
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Max distance on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
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dmacarthur
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Leaf Number: 306556
Location: Vermont

Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:39 am

The S Plus does not have a CD player, we do not miss any remote stuff on ours, and we had a local guy put some great heated seats in, cost about $500 but the S was thousands less than the other models so that worked out well. In Vermont, we do miss the heated steering wheel but since the resistance heater works so quickly the car is warm fast, and we keep a nice pair of comfy gloves on the dashboard all winter. I do wish the S had the heat pump heater, but again with the savings over the fancier models it would be years before we broke even. Go for the bargaining- make them meet your offer!
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Learjet
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:24 am

be aware that in B mode and no e-pedal ...the brakes lights do not come on...good way to get rear ended.

see this test https://youtu.be/-GwYWuoQO0g

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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:54 am

Think of B mode as being like driving a standard transmission in 2nd gear. No brake lights then, either.
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:22 am

Learjet wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:24 am
be aware that in B mode and no e-pedal ...the brakes lights do not come on...good way to get rear ended.

see this test https://youtu.be/-GwYWuoQO0g
I found just the opposite. After a few slowdowns, people behind me follow at a much greater distance.

FYI; gassers have working brake lights which does not seem to prevent rear end collisions. My reality suggests that drivers rely on those brake lights too much to enable them to follow closer.
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