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DNAinaGoodWay
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Re: London to Belgium 150 miles in nearly 24 hours

Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:56 am

I drove for the first time in the UK this summer and had no trouble doing 55 in the left lane on the motorway. That's the slow lane over there. I think trucks have a lower speed limit too. People had no trouble passing me if they wanted to.

The dual carriage ways were something else. Narrow windy roads with 60 mph limits that would probably be 40 over here. I just pulled over occasionally and let the line blow by me.

And then there's teeny little country roads less than a lane wide enclosed in a tunnel of hedge, with cars flying down them to make the end before someone comes the other way! That was fun.

Just put a big magnetic "P" on the boot and most folk will cut you some slack.
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'15 SV w/QC, Mfd 5/14, Leased 8/14, 292 GIDs, 64.38 Ahr when new
@ 36 months, 34k, 270 GID, 57.49 Ahr

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Yogi62
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Re: London to Belgium 150 miles in nearly 24 hours

Sat Oct 26, 2013 11:10 am

A little bit of "question time".


Did you leave home at 10 AM at 100% full charge (12 of the wide bars on the right), if not, why not?

Does the car have all of the capacity bars (the little bars on the right)?

How many miles on the car?

What was the temp outside? How much did you use the heaters?

Have you checked your tire inflation (should be at least the recommended pressure, many people go higher, closer to limit stamped on the tire)?

Did your car come with a charging cable, and is there any volt/amp/watt rating on the labels/instruction?

Given it is a 2011/2012 and highway driving, I would have targeted getting at least 4 miles/KW, so for 150 miles you would have 37.5 KW. Starting with ~20, that would have meant stopping for 3 hours twice, picking up 10 KW each time. (you want to charge it from 3 bars back to 10, get moving, and then do it again down the road, that last two bars takes longer as the charging rate slows down). With experience and learning to choose the scenic route, you can shorten your travel time by going slower, (30 to 40 MPH), which will lead to 5+ miles/KW and only have to charge up once.


Glad you made it! You are braver than most, diving straight away into a 150 mile journey.

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: London to Belgium 150 miles in nearly 24 hours

Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:06 pm

Yogi62 wrote:A little bit of "question time".


Did you leave home at 10 AM at 100% full charge (12 of the wide bars on the right), if not, why not?
no he did not. and the reason is he had no charging cable

the rest? dont know. he stated he had 96 miles on GOM which means one of two things

1) his degradation is not great

2) he lost elevation for several miles before plugging in...
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 412 mi, 99.72% SOH
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powercat
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Re: London to Belgium 150 miles in nearly 24 hours

Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:25 pm

Yogi62 wrote:
A little bit of "question time".

Did you leave home at 10 AM at 100% full charge (12 of the wide bars on the right), if not, why not?
The car didn't come with any charge cable and when I turned the car on there was only about 40 miles let, enough to drive to the 80% rapid charger Where I managed to get the charge showing 87 miles.
Does the car have all of the capacity bars (the little bars on the right)?
Yes
How many miles on the car?
009600
What was the temp outside? How much did you use the heaters?
I can't remember exactly but it wasn't cold war or hot and no heater

Have you checked your tire inflation (should be at least the recommended pressure, many people go higher, closer to limit stamped on the tire)?
did the tyres before setting off and set the pressure at 40 PSI

Did your car come with a charging cable, and is there any volt/amp/watt rating on the labels/instruction?
No the car didn't come with a charger, I've picked one up for Nissan when I got to the channel shuttle service it is 240v 10A charge of that would normally come with the car in the UK, if there is a way of adjusting the unit I would like to know as most of the supplies available to me are over 16A or more.

Given it is a 2011/2012 and highway driving, I would have targeted getting at least 4 miles/KW, so for 150 miles you would have 37.5 KW. Starting with ~20, that would have meant stopping for 3 hours twice, picking up 10 KW each time. (you want to charge it from 3 bars back to 10, get moving, and then do it again down the road, that last two bars takes longer as the charging rate slows down). With experience and learning to choose the scenic route, you can shorten your travel time by going slower, (30 to 40 MPH), which will lead to 5+ miles/KW and only have to charge up once.
I really dislike being overtaken by big trucks and as most tracks travel at around 60 I find it feels safer just to stay behind one, driving the scenic routes is an interesting option and I have noticed that driving in town the range seems more realistic with what is left in the battery.

Glad you made it! You are braver than most, diving straight away into a 150 mile journey.
I did a little research before setting off, I think the saying goes a little information can be a dangerous thing, but I found it a good way of getting to know the car quickly and I'm planning a new journey which has two routes one on the motorway and one on the scenic roads, it boils down to a balance between speed and range, thanks for the advice on the 3 to 10 bars.

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: London to Belgium 150 miles in nearly 24 hours

Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:44 pm

powercat wrote:
Yogi62 wrote:
A little bit of "question time".

Did you leave home at 10 AM at 100% full charge (12 of the wide bars on the right), if not, why not?
The car didn't come with any charge cable and when I turned the car on there was only about 40 miles let, enough to drive to the 80% rapid charger Where I managed to get the charge showing 87 miles.
Does the car have all of the capacity bars (the little bars on the right)?
Yes
How many miles on the car?
009600
What was the temp outside? How much did you use the heaters?
I can't remember exactly but it wasn't cold war or hot and no heater

Have you checked your tire inflation (should be at least the recommended pressure, many people go higher, closer to limit stamped on the tire)?
did the tyres before setting off and set the pressure at 40 PSI

Did your car come with a charging cable, and is there any volt/amp/watt rating on the labels/instruction?
No the car didn't come with a charger, I've picked one up for Nissan when I got to the channel shuttle service it is 240v 10A charge of that would normally come with the car in the UK, if there is a way of adjusting the unit I would like to know as most of the supplies available to me are over 16A or more.

Given it is a 2011/2012 and highway driving, I would have targeted getting at least 4 miles/KW, so for 150 miles you would have 37.5 KW. Starting with ~20, that would have meant stopping for 3 hours twice, picking up 10 KW each time. (you want to charge it from 3 bars back to 10, get moving, and then do it again down the road, that last two bars takes longer as the charging rate slows down). With experience and learning to choose the scenic route, you can shorten your travel time by going slower, (30 to 40 MPH), which will lead to 5+ miles/KW and only have to charge up once.
I really dislike being overtaken by big trucks and as most tracks travel at around 60 I find it feels safer just to stay behind one, driving the scenic routes is an interesting option and I have noticed that driving in town the range seems more realistic with what is left in the battery.

Glad you made it! You are braver than most, diving straight away into a 150 mile journey.
I did a little research before setting off, I think the saying goes a little information can be a dangerous thing, but I found it a good way of getting to know the car quickly and I'm planning a new journey which has two routes one on the motorway and one on the scenic roads, it boils down to a balance between speed and range, thanks for the advice on the 3 to 10 bars.

oh 10 amps?? is it possible the charge you got was also 10 amp service? that would explain the 50 mile range after 5 hours of charging
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 412 mi, 99.72% SOH
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powercat
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Re: London to Belgium 150 miles in nearly 24 hours

Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:09 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote: oh 10 amps?? is it possible the charge you got was also 10 amp service? that would explain the 50 mile range after 5 hours of charging
I'm not sure I understand your question fully, the charge I got from the dealer was the Nissan brick and on the label on the back it said 240v 10A. the only charging I did leaving London was with the rapid charger which puts out something like 400 volts DC at about 100A.

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: London to Belgium 150 miles in nearly 24 hours

Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:25 pm

powercat wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote: oh 10 amps?? is it possible the charge you got was also 10 amp service? that would explain the 50 mile range after 5 hours of charging
I'm not sure I understand your question fully, the charge I got from the dealer was the Nissan brick and on the label on the back it said 240v 10A. the only charging I did leaving London was with the rapid charger which puts out something like 400 volts DC at about 100A.
ya no biggie misunderstanding but you did say
powercat wrote: The only rapid charging station was at the beginning of my journey, the plug sockets after that were only 16A
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 412 mi, 99.72% SOH
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Yogi62
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Re: London to Belgium 150 miles in nearly 24 hours

Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:28 pm

Thanks for the reply. It makes more sense given you had no cable.

Do they auction cars often? Surprising that a Leaf already turned up. Good deal?

powercat
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Re: London to Belgium 150 miles in nearly 24 hours

Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:39 pm

Yogi62 wrote:Thanks for the reply. It makes more sense given you had no cable.

Do they auction cars often? Surprising that a Leaf already turned up. Good deal?
It was an insurance write off auction specialist, so I was lucky to get a Leaf, the damage was only to body panels and airbags.

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