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Re: What does a sitting leaf do?

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:29 pm
by evnow
driveleaf wrote:It is indeed a non-launch state, so I will be the first leaf the local DMV has faced off with. And it will not endear me to my fellow leaf waiting list holders who have been pushed back.
I'm interested in the state mainly to see if you will be facing really cold climate - and what Leaf's range will be.

Re: What does a sitting leaf do?

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:06 pm
by planet4ever
driveleaf wrote:It started with an 83% charge, showing 76 miles of range with climate control off, and 60 with climate control on. The dealer was confident that proper procedure was to charge the car to 80% for storage.

Day 2 yields the following: [image shows 75% charge]

The car is now on day 3 of it's journey, still sitting at the depot in Gardena. [image shows 75% charge]
As has been discussed on another thread, this is normal and expected. CarWings is stating the charge in percent, but it is really just reporting how many bars you would see if you turned the power on in the car. 83% = 10 bars; 75% = 9 bars. So you started out at "just barely" 10 bars. Now you are at "not quite" 10 bars.

Re: What does a sitting leaf do?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:17 am
by tps
driveleaf wrote:It is indeed a non-launch state, so I will be the first leaf the local DMV has faced off with
I'm surprised Nissan has not asked for you to give back your LEAF. No infrastucture in the non-launch states, or so they say. Can't have any LEAFs there....

Re: What does a sitting leaf do?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:19 am
by driveleaf
Well, day 4, and the car still reports it is sitting in Gardena waiting for the transport truck to pick it up.

To answer other questions on this thread: I will not normally be testing it's cold climate behaviour, but I will have to deal with some heat extremes. Yesterday was cool and humid, so in my ICE car I found myself running the Air Conditioner (to dehumidify) and the heat (to stay warm). This is a frequent problem here, as failure to run the AC will cause the humidity inside the car to skyrocket to a point where you can't see out the windows. I wonder what the range cost will be on those days.

Tomorrow it will be below freezing, so if the car ever gets on a truck destined for here, we'll start to see some climate testing.

Todays carwings reports the following:
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Re: What does a sitting leaf do?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:30 am
by garygid
Your car could be INSIDE a van where it cannot get a GPS update, but can still get cell-phone communication (assuming you ARE getting updates from the car).

Re: What does a sitting leaf do?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:44 am
by tps
My previous post in this thread was a bit sarcastic. More to the point: will this (and likely future moving LEAF owners) support or will it refute Nissan's implied claim that the geographic rollout must go strictly according to their plan. So far as I can tell, no one (except maybe Nissan) knows exactly why they've been so strict about their geographic rollout plans. Perhaps this type of migration will give us additional insight.

Maybe this sub-topic needs tp be split to a separate thread...

Re: What does a sitting leaf do?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:48 am
by evnow
tps wrote:So far as I can tell, no one (except maybe Nissan) knows exactly why they've been so strict about their geographic rollout plans.
Speculation is the local dealers crib (because they'd losing sales to out of state dealers).

Re: What does a sitting leaf do?

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:14 am
by driveleaf
Well, we're at Day 5, and the moving company still reports the leaf as sitting in their depot in Gardena, California. I'm really disappointed as well, since today it was 5c outside, and 17c in my garage as I left. My hope was to see how the battery behaved when pre-conditioned in the garage, and then driven in some cold.

I've located all 16 of the 110v outlets in our parking garage so I can plan to do some L1 charging while at work if necessary.

In the meantime, we see no change in the leafs report out for the last 24 hours:

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Re: What does a sitting leaf do?

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:11 pm
by TomT
Once you own it I don't think Nissan can do much about it, whether they like it or not. It's now yours to do with as you see fit.
tps wrote: I'm surprised Nissan has not asked for you to give back your LEAF. No infrastucture in the non-launch states, or so they say. Can't have any LEAFs there....

Re: What does a sitting leaf do?

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:07 am
by DaveinOlyWA
occ wrote:Wow, interesting....so after the 1st two days, the battery went down by 5% charge and held steady...so far?

Does carwings report odometer? Did your transport guy go for a joyride?

float charge. SOC is always a bit overestimated right after being taken off the charger. i would guess the rate of decline will be minimal for that short a period.