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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:16 am

sproqitman wrote:Okay, so now I have three weeks of data:

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Odometer mileage               650.0
KWh reported by Blink          208.0
Miles/KWh                        3.1
Driving is half freeway/half surface streets, typically with lights, wipers, and heater on, plus a lot of up and down. So I'm satisfied with the miles/KWh. On a related note, has anyone calibrated what the Blink reports? I'm assuming it's reporting what it's pulling from the electrical panel, but I don't have a separate meter so I can't verify.
Here are my March number (I'll do a separate post with details). Very close to your 3.1 m/kwh.

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Odometer mileage               565
KWh reported by Blink          176
Miles/KWh                      3.2
Weighted avg of Leaf M/KWh     4.1
I compared the Blink numbers with the numbers PSE reports on my single meter. Looks "ok" - obviously a 10% or even 20% error can't be figured out this way. Need TED to check it.
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:24 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
sproqitman wrote:Okay, so now I have three weeks of data:

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Odometer mileage               650.0
KWh reported by Blink          208.0
Miles/KWh                        3.1
Driving is half freeway/half surface streets, typically with lights, wipers, and heater on, plus a lot of up and down. So I'm satisfied with the miles/KWh. On a related note, has anyone calibrated what the Blink reports? I'm assuming it's reporting what it's pulling from the electrical panel, but I don't have a separate meter so I can't verify.
ok what is the car reporting on the energy screen for same time period?
Car is reporting around 3.2 M/KWh. I'm not very consistent with setting/resetting it, so I might be a bit off. CARWINGS (until it stopped recording) was reporting 4.1 to 4.2 M/KWh.

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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:27 am

Carwings quit on u too?
Maybe its doing a software fix ....albeit the slowest one in history to correct its calculation. Errors?
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:39 pm

I have been driving for a little over a week. I have 1 major hill (Kellogg hill for the locals)in my commute from Chino to Los Angeles 32.5 miles each way. I usually charge 80% and top off while at work but today I decided to do a round trip on a 100% charge.

Made the round trip total 65 miles on freeway at 65mph in eco mode with climate control off and parked in the driveway with 18 miles left on the range calculator, just a little more than 3 bars (1 white and 2 red bars left).
I'm averaging 4.8 miles per KWH with the majority of the driving at 65 mph.

I love driving the car, just can't wait for someone to offer a 5 or 6 kw range extender battery pack I can sit in the trunk.

Hope the information is useful.

Mike
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Miles= 41,000 in 26 months, 11 bars.............

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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:52 pm

MrFish wrote:I usually charge 80% and top off while at work but today I decided to do a round trip on a 100% charge.

Made the round trip total 65 miles on freeway at 65mph in eco mode with climate control off and parked in the driveway with 18 miles left on the range calculator, just a little more than 3 bars (1 white and 2 red bars left).
Gosh, that hill must really do a number on you....only 65 miles in ECO with no CC? I can better that kind of number on my relatively flat commute in D with the A/C on!
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:12 pm

mwalsh wrote:
MrFish wrote:I usually charge 80% and top off while at work but today I decided to do a round trip on a 100% charge.

Made the round trip total 65 miles on freeway at 65mph in eco mode with climate control off and parked in the driveway with 18 miles left on the range calculator, just a little more than 3 bars (1 white and 2 red bars left).
Gosh, that hill must really do a number on you....only 65 miles in ECO with no CC? I can better that kind of number on my relatively flat commute in D with the A/C on!

Yes, Ill have to check the distance from the base to the summit and back down, but it looses 15 miles of range to cover a distance estimated at 5 miles even with the regen.
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Miles= 41,000 in 26 months, 11 bars.............

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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:38 pm

evnow,
I have yet to be able to correlate data from the blink or carwings. I had one charge session that only lasted 20 minutes and the blink reported 2.2 kWh. I also had one that logged 7.4 kWh during a time I was driving the car to Scappoose, not sure where that came from. I lost a bunch of test data with the last couple updates pushed so I have to do a new series. I'm trying to get an accurate wall to wheels usage / cost figure but can't get stuff to add up. I am not using fudge factors yet. :lol:
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:58 pm

Could some of you who now have some mountain driving experience please give your estimates of how elevation gain and descent has affected your range?

Assuming a return to your start point, so no net elevation change, about how many miles of range do you think each 1,000 ft of elevation gain and descent subtract from total range?

I'm asking about "typical" grade conditions, with reasonable efforts made to maximize regen and minimize conversion of the energy gained in descent to brake heat.
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:31 pm

I've driven a trip that was 40 miles up an elevation gain of 5,500 feet. At the top, the car went into "low battery" mode and it had entered the 2 red bars. The range indicator showed 12 miles remaining.

So, if the car can go 100 miles (Eco mode) on relatively flat land, but only 40 miles up a 5,500 foot grade, wouldn't that calculate to 2.5:1 difference?

But, going back down got me back to the starting point with 1 red bar showing and 9 miles range remaining, for a total ride without recharge of 80 miles in Eco mode.
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:55 pm

bowthom wrote:I have yet to be able to correlate data from the blink or carwings. I had one charge session that only lasted 20 minutes and the blink reported 2.2 kWh. I also had one that logged 7.4 kWh during a time I was driving the car to Scappoose, not sure where that came from. I lost a bunch of test data with the last couple updates pushed so I have to do a new series. I'm trying to get an accurate wall to wheels usage / cost figure but can't get stuff to add up. I am not using fudge factors yet. :lol:
Is this onthe blinknetwork.com ?

That place is full of holes - hopefully federal government won't be making decisions based on that collection of data - thought after the latest firmware it seems to be better for me.
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