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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:57 pm
by LeftieBiker
I wish I never got that firmware update that added a bar back and then took forever to drop the other under warranty.
If it helps any, my understanding is that Nissan wouldn't have replaced the pack without first doing that "update." So in all likelihood the last bar drop would have been pushed back to after the warranty ended in either case...

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:15 pm
by sptleaf
I get about 36 miles from 100% to low battery warning

So that's about a 50% reduction in range from new in 2012, so 7 years. How can it still show 10 battery bars? That doesn't make any sense. I got my 2019 Leaf knowing about the battery history and the rapid depreciation, but I figure I can still get to work at a 50% reduction of range from today's 150 miles. But I was hoping I'd be eligible for a new battery if something like that happened. Maybe that's not the case.

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:36 pm
by DougWantsALeaf
Any leaf plus range tests out there? Just ordered my SV Plus

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:21 pm
by SalisburySam
sptleaf wrote: I get about 36 miles from 100% to low battery warning

So that's about a 50% reduction in range from new in 2012, so 7 years. How can it still show 10 battery bars? That doesn't make any sense. I got my 2019 Leaf knowing about the battery history and the rapid depreciation, but I figure I can still get to work at a 50% reduction of range from today's 150 miles. But I was hoping I'd be eligible for a new battery if something like that happened. Maybe that's not the case.
As Ed McMahon once said, you sir, are correct. Have no idea why I have 10 visible bars, but I do. And I really, really only get about 36 miles from 100% to LBW. Worse, that's with no heat, no freeways, nothing off city roads, only steering wheel and seat heat and then only occasionally. Will have to have dealer look at it, maybe as part of next brake fluid change. That ought to be interesting.

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:28 pm
by igranderojo
I can find the 2019 LEAF mpge on the EPA website:
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSe ... e=Electric

I see the 226 mile range for the Leaf Plus. That would be 123mpge.
Where on the Internet is the official EPA mpge rating for the Leaf Plus?
Average/highway/city?

Thanks

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:04 pm
by Marktm
SalisburySam wrote:For the last several “tankfuls” of electrons I get about 36 miles from 100% to low battery warning, and another 3-4 miles to very low battery warning. All of this with no heat or a/c use. Worse, I still have 10 capacity bars showing so nowhere near the trigger for a battery replacement at the 5-year mark, which was now 2 years ago. Odd, and very disappointing.
I have the Lizard replacement battery and use LeafSpy to monitor when LBW, VLBW and turtle occur. I've seen some variance but mostly about 13 to 15 miles remaining range upon the first indication of LBW and turtle. Don't see a good correlation of miles between LBW and VLBW. I depend on LeafSpy to determine remaining range and set the display to "Miles -> 0%" using 3.8 to 4.0 miles per kWh when driving similar to what you describe. Using the AC/heat system in the 2012 can have a big affect when you are trying to squeeze out every mile! It's possible you have more total range that is more in line with your remaining ahrs of about 47 - which I believe is in the 10 bar range.

BTW, my 2012 lost the 10th bar at about 43 ahrs in November of 2016.

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:36 pm
by igranderojo
Marktm wrote:
SalisburySam wrote:For the last several “tankfuls” of electrons I get about 36 miles from 100% to low battery warning, and another 3-4 miles to very low battery warning. All of this with no heat or a/c use. Worse, I still have 10 capacity bars showing so nowhere near the trigger for a battery replacement at the 5-year mark, which was now 2 years ago. Odd, and very disappointing.
I have the Lizard replacement battery and use LeafSpy to monitor when LBW, VLBW and turtle occur. I've seen some variance but mostly about 13 to 15 miles remaining range upon the first indication of LBW and turtle. Don't see a good correlation of miles between LBW and VLBW. I depend on LeafSpy to determine remaining range and set the display to "Miles -> 0%" using 3.8 to 4.0 miles per kWh when driving similar to what you describe. Using the AC/heat system in the 2012 can have a big affect when you are trying to squeeze out every mile! It's possible you have more total range that is more in line with your remaining ahrs of about 47 - which I believe is in the 10 bar range.

BTW, my 2012 lost the 10th bar at about 43 ahrs in November of 2016.
Where on the Internet is the official EPA mpge rating for the Leaf Plus?
Average/highway/city?

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:41 pm
by sptleaf
sptleaf wrote:2019 Leaf S, I'm consistently showing 150-180 miles on the range meter. Highest value was 186. I'll start doing the trip odometer to get some real commuting data, but I've easily done 2 60 miles commutes back to back and assorted errands each day on one charge.

So just to update here, I'm getting a realistic 150-160 miles of range with my 2019 S. Could be more, but I don't go down under 10% much. Trip meter is showing a 4.1 miles per kwh average. I usually use B mode but not ePedal.

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:28 pm
by powersurge
You really should not worry about "miles/ electrons" fuel statistics. They are totally worthless. Depends totally on how you accelerate and how fast you drive . (Not to mention your "heat" habits)..

Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:30 pm
by Dooglas
igranderojo wrote:Where on the Internet is the official EPA mpge rating for the Leaf Plus?
Average/highway/city?
108 / 97 / 118

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSe ... rchtyp=ymm