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mwalsh
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:58 pm

I went out to blow off some charge today and got some figures for 75mph and for 65mph.

First some observations:

1) It is VERY difficult to maintain a steady 75mph on LA freeways, at ANY time during daytime hours.

2) There is not much rhyme or reason as to why you appear to get more out of one bar than you do over another. Because speed is a constant, I guess it has to be the terrain if it's not random. So what I've tried to do is average over 3 or more bars.

3) I got more out of a bar at 65mph that I expected. Since I normally drive to work at 65mph, I've been seeing the results of that more than I have driving home (so top of the pack vs. bottom of the pack) and have been getting less (more like 6.5 miles to a bar). It's almost like it could be the bars at the top of the pack yield fewer miles than those at the bottom of the pack, and it may be necessary to reverse this experiment to make sure that's not so. Any opinions on that hypothesis?

So here are my figures:

75mph - 5 miles per bar
65mph - 7.5 miles per bar

Hate to be "that guy" but I told you guys ages ago that I thought the difference between the two was greater than 20%, and nobody bought into it!

BTW, did we decide that each bar represented ~2kW? Because I saw another thread where the poster was talking about 2.9kW per bar?
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:11 pm

mwalsh wrote:BTW, did we decide that each bar represented ~2kW? Because I saw another thread where the poster was talking about 2.9kW per bar?
That is if you want to move up a bar because of regen. Otherwise it is 2 kwh.
75mph - 5 miles per bar
65mph - 7.5 miles per bar
That would translate to

75mph - 60 miles
65mph - 90 miles

though, last few miles you can't actually drive at that speed because of turtle mode. I guess these are without climate control ?
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:16 pm

evnow wrote:I guess these are without climate control ?
Yes, without climate control.
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:06 am

evnow wrote:That would translate to

75mph - 60 miles
65mph - 90 miles

though, last few miles you can't actually drive at that speed because of turtle mode. I guess these are without climate control ?

Woke up with this on my mind. Remember that you don't get a full measure of range off that first bar - I generally only get ~3.5 miles out of it. So realistically....high 50s @ 75mph and mid 80s @ 65mph.
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:58 pm

Today was a pretty mild day today, so I was driving around with climate control off. I put it on ECO mode and took all surface streets. I went 55.5 miles and arrived back home with 38 miles remaining. That seems pretty darn good to me. I've definitely noticed, as others have, that freeway driving at 60+ miles absolutely slaughters your range. The heater is bad for range too, but not nearly as much as the freeway...

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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:27 am

I have seen many test of range, including many miles through "extra-urban" roads.

Does somebody have an idea of the range if we drive only in city ?
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:22 am

navidad wrote:I have seen many test of range, including many miles through "extra-urban" roads.

Does somebody have an idea of the range if we drive only in city ?
It depends on your hypermiling skills.. and that does not include drafting unsafely behind anyone.. perhaps 170 miles from a test report by Wayne Gedes, perhaps higher with no hwy driving at all. This is his hypermiling website:

http://www.cleanmpg.com/

"Hypermiler describes a driver who strives to exceed their vehicle's EPA fuel economy rating..While Hypermiling is about a variety of techniques to improve a vehicles fuel economy, Hypermiling should not be equated with dangerous driving. While some hypermilers favor certain advanced practices that entail some risk and are in some areas illegal, these are not required nor encouraged. There are many basic techniques that are safe and actually make you a better driver, it is up to you, as a driver, to find your own particular level of comfort and fuel economy."

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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:14 am

"Some Nissan Leaf electric car owners left stranded" USAToday informed, another trouble with LEAF
http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... stranded/1
http://jalopnik.com/#!5780215
but as it was mentioned before plan your trip and you will be OK. For me still a long way to get my Leaf (Oklahoma) and I plan to use 70 miles round trip to work, but I will charge at home and work so I can't envision how range, running of of power, can be a problem for me. I do not count on charging infrastructure here but strongly believe this car will be great for me.

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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:32 am

EdmondLeaf wrote:"Some Nissan Leaf electric car owners left stranded" USAToday informed, another trouble with LEAF
F***kng hack job. Some? My arse. :?
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Re: So, owners what range are you getting ?

Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:47 am

EdmondLeaf wrote:"Some Nissan Leaf electric car owners left stranded" USAToday informed, another trouble with LEAF
http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... stranded/1
http://jalopnik.com/#!5780215
but as it was mentioned before plan your trip and you will be OK. For me still a long way to get my Leaf (Oklahoma) and I plan to use 70 miles round trip to work, but I will charge at home and work so I can't envision how range, running of of power, can be a problem for me. I do not count on charging infrastructure here but strongly believe this car will be great for me.
old news...

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... t=reporter
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