It's actually not irrelevant I was just responding to what you said specifically. Anyone who is not a complete moron would realize that responses that include quotes are generally responding specifically to what is in the quote.SageBrush wrote:If so, then irrelevant to the Oak Ridge or AAA results.golfcart wrote: You were specifically talking about "long trips" (not commuting) in the part I responded to.
You cannot have it both ways. Either we are talking about short trips and then the refueling time is trivial for EV owners with convenient L2 charging; or you are talking about long distance driving and then the SINGLE cold soak penalty is diluted.
Which brings us back to why the AAA study is FUD:
Efficiency of short trips does not extrapolate to long trips;
EVs are designed to be heated differently than an ICE.
There are two scenarios. One is short trips (daily commuting and running errands) and one is long trips (road trips requiring multiple refuels as quickly as possible). There are advantages and disadvantages in each scenario all of which have been hashed out in this thread already. Nice try though.