LeafGromby
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:07 pm

Feb was 3.2 m/kWh with 1347 miles traveled, Dec and Jan had the same m/kWh, miles traveled were about the same, living in lower NY state.
I know it’s an EV but I don’t hold back on the heat when I’m cold. Didn’t spend all this money to be uncomfortable.
For those interested, last battery SOH was at 94.29% with 7450 on the odometer.
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gregn
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:51 am

Took a trip Sunday 3/1/20 Outside temp 11def F for the trip down and 17degF for the trip back. Studded Cooper Evolution tires @ 40 psi.
From the car's trip comp; 3.1 m/kWh, 94.2m 35mph avg 2:37 trip time.
I ran enough heat to be comfortable. Although the car reported 35 mph avg speed I mostly went 50-55 unless in a town.
There were two climbs to 1700 ft ASL fro 570 at the start. The first low point to 800 then after the second a drop to 600 then back to 800 at the destination. This was repeated in reverse for the return leg.
I started with a full charge because I wasn't sure if I wanted to take some deviations on the way back. Ended with 40% - 93 miles on the car computer upon returning home.
I planned this trip with A Better Route Planner and its estimates were spot on. That is a really great piece of software.
I gave it the car's specs and set weather conditions to rain and snow because of the studded tires. The roads were actually dry. It it had been snowy I would have move it up another notch. Great tool. Very peaceful trip.
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:30 pm

Now that the temperature jumped back to 50F in Chicago, I have been getting some local drives back above (just barely) 5 miles to the kilowatt.

There is something magical about 45-50F which seems to be the dividing line between summer and winter efficiency.
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LeftieBiker
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:46 pm

There is something magical about 45-50F which seems to be the dividing line between summer and winter efficiency.
Assuming that you have the heat pump, it may be that. At temps above 45F the efficiency hit is similar to A/C. Below that it starts to increase quite a bit.
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:58 pm

With the temp 50-60F today, just pulled into the garage with 65% SOC and the GOM still reading 179 miles.

I did 44 miles at an average of 5.2 miles per KW, mainly local driving (25-45 mph). So glad to be above 5 again after the winter. (Segments between 4.5 and 6 miles per kWh)

I am trying to use ePedal starting this month to see if it can incrementally help overall efficiency of my non freeway driving. So far so good, but only a couple days into testing.

Have others found it helped overall efficiency (obviously with eco on as well)?
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GerryAZ
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:44 am

I rarely use E-Pedal because it applies the friction brakes more than I want. I am curious to see your efficiency comparisons.
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dmacarthur
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:19 am

I agree that e-pedal is mostly using friction braking- the dealer told us that the brakes would never wear out if we used e-pedal but they have never understood these things anyway. Watch the regen side of the enrgy use meter, using the B drive mode maxes out the regen capability most of the time (although I wish that regen was adjustable, doesn't Bolt have that)?
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:16 am

It does look on the dash like regen is better with ePedal. I thought the friction brakes get applied only towards the end of the stopping process with ePedal.

I will report back in a few weeks with my unscientific analysis.
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:27 am

dmacarthur wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:19 am
I agree that e-pedal is mostly using friction braking- the dealer told us that the brakes would never wear out if we used e-pedal but they have never understood these things anyway. Watch the regen side of the enrgy use meter, using the B drive mode maxes out the regen capability most of the time (although I wish that regen was adjustable, doesn't Bolt have that)?
How did you determine its "mostly" friction braking?
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:30 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:16 am
It does look on the dash like regen is better with ePedal. I thought the friction brakes get applied only towards the end of the stopping process with ePedal.

I will report back in a few weeks with my unscientific analysis.
This is also the impression I got. "Sometimes" I can almost sense when the friction brakes are actually engaging at low (under 5 mph) speed.

One way that might be easier to test is when SOC is very high. E Pedal feels the same but its mostly friction braking then. I have only charged past 83% twice and not willing to make a habit of charging to 100% needlessly but I know there are several here who simply plug it in. If you are one of them, might be something to pay attention to?

As far as higher regen in E Pedal; that is proven. In tests on my 40 kwh and E Plus, I am seeing regen more than 50% greater in E Pedal over Eco B
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