DougWantsALeaf
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Leaf Number: 407811
Location: Chicago North Side

Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:47 pm

December in the books

SV+ 425 miles and 3.7 miles/kWh. (Heat and maybe 15-20% highway)

S+ 276 miles and 4.5 miles/kWh (minimal heat and 50+% highway)

Cold has finally set in, with a couple days in the teens and other days barely touching freezing.
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

DaveinOlyWA
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Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:43 pm
Delivery Date: 16 Nov 2019
Leaf Number: 319862
Location: Olympia, WA
Contact: Website

Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Fri Jan 01, 2021 8:25 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:47 pm
December in the books

SV+ 425 miles and 3.7 miles/kWh. (Heat and maybe 15-20% highway)

S+ 276 miles and 4.5 miles/kWh (minimal heat and 50+% highway)

Cold has finally set in, with a couple days in the teens and other days barely touching freezing.
Amazing numbers for 50% highway
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 16,686 mi, 91.51% SOH
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DougWantsALeaf
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Location: Chicago North Side

Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:26 am

Highway is 55mph here, though I do drive faster at times. On local roads, mainly 25-35, I drive like an old fart. The faster highway/freeway drives were definitely in the upper 3s, but they were balanced with low 5s in the local sections. Car is garaged, which helps, as battery starts at 50-53F.
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

DaveinOlyWA
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Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:43 pm
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Leaf Number: 319862
Location: Olympia, WA
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:24 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:26 am
Highway is 55mph here, though I do drive faster at times. On local roads, mainly 25-35, I drive like an old fart. The faster highway/freeway drives were definitely in the upper 3s, but they were balanced with low 5s in the local sections. Car is garaged, which helps, as battery starts at 50-53F.
My car is garaged (average ambient upper 50's) "half" the time but even 12 hours at work doesn't significantly cool the pack. I haven't measured it lately but last winter after I got it, I did and saw only a 4-5º drop in temps. Not a whole lot. Other variables applied of course but generally OAT ranged from mid 30's to mid 40's.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 16,686 mi, 91.51% SOH
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:25 pm

Ok, Jan is in the books.

SV+ 280 Miles and 3.4 miles/kWh
S+ 512 Miles and 3.9 miles/kWh --> which included a full 100% to 0% 180 miles highway drive at 70ish (+-5 mph over course) and 7 to 20F.

Jan here was fairly cold, though not extreme. 20s most days.
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

GerryAZ
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:48 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:25 pm
Ok, Jan is in the books.

SV+ 280 Miles and 3.4 miles/kWh
S+ 512 Miles and 3.9 miles/kWh --> which included a full 100% to 0% 180 miles highway drive at 70ish (+-5 mph over course) and 7 to 20F.

Jan here was fairly cold, though not extreme. 20s most days.
I assume those mi/kWh numbers are from the dash. Here are my numbers from my last charge:
147.0 miles driven per dash (January 26 through 30)
3.0 mi/kWh per dash
58.76 kWh from meter at input to EVSE
Odometer error with run flat tires is about 3.2%
(147.0 X 1.032)/58.76=2.58 mi/kWh actual wall-to-wheels efficiency

The above numbers are typical. Total miles driven will be a little over 1,600 this month and dash efficiency (recorded/reset each charge cycle) ranged from 3.0 to 3.6 mi/kWh.
Gerry
Silver LEAF 2011 SL rear ended (totaled) by in-attentive driver 1/4/2015 at 50,422 miles
Silver LEAF 2015 SL purchased 2/7/2015; traded 8/10/2019 at 82,436 miles
White LEAF 2019 SL Plus purchased 8/10/2019

DaveinOlyWA
Posts: 15421
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:43 pm
Delivery Date: 16 Nov 2019
Leaf Number: 319862
Location: Olympia, WA
Contact: Website

Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:58 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:25 pm
Ok, Jan is in the books.

SV+ 280 Miles and 3.4 miles/kWh
S+ 512 Miles and 3.9 miles/kWh --> which included a full 100% to 0% 180 miles highway drive at 70ish (+-5 mph over course) and 7 to 20F.

Jan here was fairly cold, though not extreme. 20s most days.
How do you determine your miles/kwh numbers? By the month, the trip or daily totals?
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 16,686 mi, 91.51% SOH
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DougWantsALeaf
Posts: 2454
Joined: Fri May 10, 2013 8:21 pm
Delivery Date: 18 May 2013
Leaf Number: 407811
Location: Chicago North Side

Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:09 pm

SV+ by the Nissan Connect app. It shows a monthly average.

S+ I try to reset the efficiency at the start of each month. This month I had 2 readings. The first was the mileage up until my long trip (4.1), and the long trip plus driving this past week (3.7). The 2 pieces were not quite equal, but close enough. 3.9.
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

dmacarthur
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Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:00 pm
Delivery Date: 03 Jul 2018
Leaf Number: 306556
Location: Vermont

Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:28 pm

Our S+ has only the M/KWH meter as Doug points out- 3.0 the month of January with a lot of cold and we now use heat all the time, just too bloody cold without and the cost is minimal. We get 4.5 during the summer months so are consuming about 1/3 of our charge to heat (and to run the car, probably less efficient when it is 5 F than in its sweet temperature range). At 3.0 M/KWH and paying $.125 for a KWH a 30 mile trip is costing us $1.25 in the dead of winter and about $.85 in the summer., which is a bit over 50 MPG cost equivalent in winter driving, 65-70 MPG in summer (with gas at around $2.40 where it is right now). The thing I miss least? Oil changes! I always do (did) my own and do NOT miss them.....
2015 Leaf sold
2019 Leaf Plus S as of 9/30/19

alozzy
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Delivery Date: 18 Jan 2017
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:43 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:25 pm
Ok, Jan is in the books.

SV+ 280 Miles and 3.4 miles/kWh
S+ 512 Miles and 3.9 miles/kWh --> which included a full 100% to 0% 180 miles highway drive at 70ish (+-5 mph over course) and 7 to 20F.

Jan here was fairly cold, though not extreme. 20s most days.
I find it surprising that your SV+, with its hybrid heater system, consistently has lower miles/kWh than your S does...

What do you account for the discrepancy? I'm sure the larger 17" wheels on the SV don't help, but does that explain the difference entirely? It's an unexpected result.
Vancouver, CA owner of a 2013 Ocean Blue SV + QC, purchased 01/2017 in WA
Zencar 12/20/24/30A L1/L2 portable EVSE
1-1/4" Curt #11396 hitch
After market, DIY LED DRLs
LeafSpy Pro + Konnwei KW902 ELM327 BT OBDII dongle
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