SageBrush
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Re: Better Efficiency blah blah blah

Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:34 am

Suburban sprawl
Ignorance of basic physics
Arrogance

This OP has it all; the only interesting thing is it comes from Canada even though it sounds American.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/2018: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
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sthbeach
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Re: Better Efficiency blah blah blah

Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:17 am

Yes, all roads and highways are the same, Route 66 and the Autobahn are exactly the same...... smh
Bytheway, parts of the 401 are 20 lanes across and where I live, again, IS the busiest and craziest stretch in all of North America and that is a FACT.
Crazy drivers, unbelievable amount of Transport trucks, average documented speed of 120kph, crazy traffic jams, inclimate weather, unbelievably short on-ramps at most interchanges. Everyday I deal with at least two idiots each way to work and I'm set to 115 kph in Pro Pilot not even driving the car basically! As a matter of fact, on last night's commute home it was pouring rain and visibility was poor. I dropped my speed down to 95 kph (below the speed limit) and I had an 18 wheeler ride my ass for 5 kms in the slow lane at 11:30 at night with almost no cars on the road in this stretch where he could of been in any lane he wanted!

And Sage, you should stop making blanket statements about American or Canadians when you don't even know them. I don't know what nationality you are, and I don't care but if you don't like America, LEAVE! And take your tree hugging, EV driving narrow-minded ass somewhere else!
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sthbeach
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Re: Better Efficiency blah blah blah

Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:43 am

Oh, I almost forgot.....

I am a proud Canadian and American (dual citizen).
And I'm not afraid to say I am a Republican, God bless America and Donald Trump.... MAGA all the way!

And....Let's all take a moment to remember and reflect, it is 9-11.......

sthbeach
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Re: Better Efficiency blah blah blah

Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:03 am

So back to the whole point of this thread, forget all the stats and bickering and opinion......
When the average car buyer with a 150km daily commute goes to purchase an EV that says 242km range there is no thought in their head or calculator in their hand to crunch the real time stats that they think that car wont handle the drive fairly easily or at all for that matter. More so, there is no salesman that would tell them otherwise either!
Even further, I will go as far as saying that most buyers might even buy the 30kw/h Leaf thinking it would probably handle their needs!
Oh wait, but if I had just gone on the Leaf Forum (where less than .001% of Leaf buyers are) before hand, I would have found it all out....... Laughable
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sthbeach
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Re: Better Efficiency blah blah blah

Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:14 am

Let's be honest.....

There would be no threads here about range, efficiency, battery degredation, battery upgrades and so on if everyone was happy with what they got.
Do you think if I bought a Chevy Bolt with 383 km range that I would even be on a Chevy forum saying anything.......the majority of real happy and fully satisfied Leaf buyers will never go on any forum and that's a FACT.

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Re: Better Efficiency blah blah blah

Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:32 am

sthbeach wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:03 am
So back to the whole point of this thread, forget all the stats and bickering and opinion......
When the average car buyer with a 150km daily commute goes to purchase an EV that says 242km range there is no thought in their head or calculator in their hand to crunch the real time stats that they think that car wont handle the drive fairly easily or at all for that matter. More so, their is no salesman that would tell them otherwise either!
Even further, I will go as far as saying that most buyers might even buy the 30kw/h Leaf thinking it would probably handle their needs!
Oh wait, but if I had just gone on the Leaf Forum (where less than .001% of Leaf buyers are) before hand, I would have found it all out....... Laughable
FWIW, when I was looking at LEAF (I was on the reservation list for awhile), Nissan had a web site to help you determine suitability. As I recall, they suggested best suitability was if your commute distance was 50% or less of the vehicle's rated range. Still a good rule of thumb.

But that was 2010. Let's ffwd a decade and "electric vehicle" turns up 34 million hits in Google. There's no shortage of information; it's one of the hottest topics around! And the "average car buyer" (whose commute is a third of what you give) knows better than to take a car salesman's word for ANYTHING. Seriously.

Sorry there's too much cherry-picking in your messages. Craziest road in North America, 150kM commute, your comprehensive tests somehow defy the laws of physics, you absolutely must speed because commercial drivers are trying to kill you in the right lane, did no research before buying a battery-operated car for the first time... A tale of woe, it is! :lol:

It's not the first time someone has come here with a story that was "the perfect storm" of conditions "proving" that EVs are no good. And with no shortage of ad hominem for anyone who challenges them! If your tale is true then I'm sorry for your mistake. Put on your MAGA hat, cinch up your knickers and either make the necessary adjustments or change vehicles is the best advice I can offer.
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

sthbeach
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Re: Better Efficiency blah blah blah

Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:10 am

LMAO......
EV's are no good for most - FACT.
Because if they were it would take up a hell of alot more than 3.5% of the market share in 10 years.
I made a bad purchase and I own it but it doesn't change the fact that EV's are still shit for most people (range, purchase price and so on) and will be for another 10 years, I'm just one of the only EV owners in here that will admit it.
Let's be honest, where's the threads in here about saving the earth. Most EV owners did not purchase with that as their first reason to go electric.
If gas was 50 cents a gallon, I would put my MAGA hat on, drop the top and drive off in my nice 3 series Beamer for the same price as my fancied up golf cart.... Let's get real here people!

You tree huggers keep sitting on your moral high horse.....hey you never know, one day they'll make an EV version of one of those too and then you can ride off into that utopian sunset together....
There, how is that for a little more ad hominem for you, smart guy!

SageBrush
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Re: Better Efficiency blah blah blah

Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:50 am

sthbeach wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:43 am
And I'm not afraid to say I am a Republican, God bless America and Donald Trump.... MAGA all the way!
Yep.

I can smell a Trumper a mile away. The stench of arrogance mixed with ignorance is unmistakable
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/2018: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
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2018 Tesla Model 3 LR, Delivered 6/2018

sthbeach
Posts: 61
Joined: Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:49 pm
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Re: Better Efficiency blah blah blah

Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:58 am

Yep, and I can smell a socialist lefty from a mile away with his relentless ignoring the facts and overall naive sense of reality. Let me guess, you love AOC, right......anyway let's get off the politics, shall we.

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Re: Better Efficiency blah blah blah

Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:01 am

sthbeach wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:10 am
LMAO......
EV's are no good for most - FACT.
EVs are changing. Can you change?
WetEV
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Most everything around here is wet during the rainy season. And the rainy season is long.
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