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Re: I Beat EPA's 2.9 Miles/KWh : Report Your Monthly Mileage

Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:17 pm

davewill wrote: Anyway, I'll take this answer as a "no" you don't have anything but this.
If you don't want to do any searching - let it be. I'm not going to do the work for you.

ps : I'm likely to move all the OT posts to a new thread and keep this thread clean with only reports of m/kwh.
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Re: I Beat EPA's 2.9 Miles/KWh : Report Your Monthly Mileage

Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:22 am

davewill wrote:BTW, when are you going to repeat your constant speed test in "D"?
I was waiting for the conditions to be the same especially the ambient temp...it needs to be in the 70's so I'll probably do it tomorrow afternoon.
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Re: I Beat EPA's 2.9 Miles/KWh : Report Your Monthly Mileage

Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:32 am

Below are my CW reports, available at the bottom of the "regional rankings" page.
Month and Year Grade Rank Energy Economy
May/2011 Gold 492 5.4 miles/kWh
Jun/2011 Gold 695 5.7 miles/kWh
Jul/2011 Gold 1651 5.3 miles/kWh
Aug/2011 Bronze 3622 4.2 miles/kWh
Sep/2011 Silver 3457 4.5 miles/kWh
Oct/2011 Silver 3640 4.2 miles/kWh
Nov/2011 Gold 2471 4.3 miles/kWh
These numbers need to be corrected for charge efficiency (relative to EPA m/kWh) but do seem to be entirely consistent with my driving, since I had the NTB11-041 CW update done on 8/3.

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=5423" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think I can explain why the monthly results are not showing the approximately 5% reduction in cold weather m/kWh performance, I posted here:

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 1&start=60" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I do a lot of my driving on mountain roads, and with both wet surfaces, and more driving after dark, my speed has often been restricted. Also, the (about 5%) lower cold weather total available battery capacity, has also meant that I need to watch the bars closely on some of my longer drives, and slow down. For instance, I used 18 kWh (CW report) for the 77.7 mile drive I made on 11/13, went from 11 bars to 1 bar, and got the VLB warning for the first time (when I wasn't trying to) since I got the car. I also haven't had to use the heater very much, other than pre-heating, which probably is not reported as "energy used" by CW.

Interesting that CW has moved me back up to "gold". Both a larger proportion of LEAFs now have probably now had the update, to correct CW, and weather has dropped others' m/kWh results, more than mine.

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Re: I Beat EPA's 2.9 Miles/KWh : Report Your Monthly Mileage

Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:10 am

It might be helpful if a moderator could post a "sticky" poll asking the average MPkWh that Leaf owners are experiencing. We could then quickly and easily see at a glance what the overall average is to date, and how it compares with EPA's estimate. Just a suggestion.

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Re: I Beat EPA's 2.9 Miles/KWh : Report Your Monthly Mileage

Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:34 pm

Back on topic...

My numbers for NOV-2011:

a. 507 miles
b. 90.9 kWh Wall (Blink)
c. 5.58 miles/kWh Wall(Blink)
e. 6.3 miles/kWh Carwings (yeah right)
f. $8.18
g. 1.6 cents/mile


My numbers dropped a little since last month, mainly in this last cold and humid week in TN. I tried to limit the use of the heater/defroster, but the humidity and temperatures made it impossible to not lose a few kW. Still, 8 bucks and some change compared to the ~$75 in gas it would have cost me with my old ICE is nice.

I can smile as I update my sig to show my new lifetime wall-to-wheels figures. It took me a month to figure it out (as my lower first monthly numbers showed me), but driving efficiently and getting 100+ miles out of a charge in this car is very easy for me now (120 miles on one 100% charge being my record).
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Re: I Beat EPA's 2.9 Miles/KWh : Report Your Monthly Mileage

Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:14 pm

TNleaf wrote:Back on topic...

c. 5.58 miles/kWh Wall(Blink)

e. 6.3 miles/kWh Carwings (yeah right)

If you are getting 5.58 m/kwh at the wall you could easily be getting 6.3 m/kwh (88% charging efficiency). Infact it might be higher ...
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Re: I Beat EPA's 2.9 Miles/KWh : Report Your Monthly Mileage

Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:45 pm

Here is mine for November. Another fall from October's 4.6 (and Sept's 5.2).

Mainly the drop in temperature - but also a lot of trips we made together that increased the use of heater.

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Month : Nov-2011
a. 833 Miles
b. 272 kWh (Wall - Blink)
c. 3.1 Miles/kWh (Wall)
d. 3.8 Miles/kWh (Leaf)
e. ? Miles/kWh (CarWings)
f. $30
g. 3.6 Cents/Mile
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Re: I Beat EPA's 2.9 Miles/KWh : Report Your Monthly Mileage

Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:02 am

Here is mine for December. The m/kWh seems to be stabilizing. But, the wall to wheel m/kWh actually came out to be exactly what EPA rated at !

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Month : Nov-2011
a. 979 Miles
b. 339 kWh (Wall - Blink - Estimated)
c. 2.9 Miles/kWh (Wall)
d. 3.5 Miles/kWh (Leaf)
e. 3.4 Miles/kWh (CarWings)
f. $37
g. 3.8 Cents/Mile
Here is the entire record at a glance.

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Here is the range vs average temperature (as reported by weather stations, rather than what I've logged).

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Re: I Beat EPA's 2.9 Miles/KWh : Report Your Monthly Mileage

Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:20 am

evnow wrote:Here is mine for December. The m/kWh seems to be stabilizing. But, the wall to wheel m/kWh actually came out to be exactly what EPA rated at !

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Month : Nov-2011
a. 979 Miles
b. 339 kWh (Wall - Blink - Estimated)
c. 2.9 Miles/kWh (Wall)
d. 3.5 Miles/kWh (Leaf)
e. ? Miles/kWh (CarWings)
f. $37
g. 3.8 Cents/Mile
Here is the entire record at a glance.

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Here is the range vs average temperature (as reported by weather stations, rather than what I've logged).

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your lifetime stats seem a bit out of sync
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Re: I Beat EPA's 2.9 Miles/KWh : Report Your Monthly Mileage

Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:27 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:your lifetime stats seem a bit out of sync
Oh yes - couple of items didn't include the Nov/Dec numbers. corrected.
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