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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:48 pm

Took my first 'long range' trip in my Leaf yesterday. She made it with room to spare!! I drove very conservatively, because it was my first time testing the range. I was quite pleased.


Total Miles Driven : 67.6 miles
Date : 08/16/2013
Leaf End Condition : Everything normal (24 miles of range remaining)
Route / Terrain : Mostly Interstate / relatively flat terrain
Speed : between 60-65mph (no cruise control)
Weather : 77 degrees, humid, no air conditioner use for 90% of the trip

The BEFORE shot:
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The AFTER shot:
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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:25 pm

Marc,

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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:20 pm

Went 75 miles yesterday on 66% of battery charge, from Frazier Park to Pasadena, CA. Yes, there is considerable downhill on that run. This was one leg of a trip from the southern San Joaquin Valley over the Grapevine and back in one day. Uphills were another matter. Still, our 2013 Leaf did better than I expected. Here is a summary of the trip distances and SOC at each phase.

Home: SOC 100%
11.1 miles to Nissan of Bakersfield (mostly freeway): 84% SOC on arrival. Charged to 99%
38.3 miles to Flying J at Frazier Park (all freeway): 35% SOC on arrival. Charged to 86%.
75.2 miles to Sierra Madre VIlla metro station in Pasadena (all freeway via I5, 134 and 210). 20% SOC on arrival. Charged to 64%.
32.6 miles to CSU Northridge DC quick charger. 30% SOC on arrival. Charged to 98% in about 40 minutes.
15 miles to Nissan of Valencia via surface streets. 83% SOC on arrival. Charged to 100%.
37.3 miles to Flying J in Frazier Park (all freeway). 40% SOC on arrival. Charged to 66%
48 miles home, mostly freeway. 20% SOC on arrival.

I didn't do much hypermiling stuff. Mostly I just drove at the speed of the slowest half of the traffic, and went light on the accelerator, keeping a steady pace as possible. Did follow trucks on some of the uphill runs, mostly because I slowed down a bit or happened to be in their lane where they were splitting the travel lanes due to construction. On the last leg I drove 65-73 mph almost the whole way. Only gained about 4% SOC on the northbound downslope of the Grapevine as a result. Was more interested in getting home and knew I had enough charge.

If I had it to do again, I would skip the charging at both Nissan dealers since it's doable without those stops and charging at high SOC is slow and not great for the battery from what I know. Don't know if anyone else has driven the Grapevine both ways in one day. It was definitely a learning experience on the car's capabilities, and I was pleasantly surprised. If only they had a QC at Frazier Park it would have made the trip a lot shorter. :)

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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:06 pm

hpver wrote:Went 75 miles yesterday on 66% of battery charge, from Frazier Park to Pasadena, CA. Yes, there is considerable downhill on that run. This was one leg of a trip from the southern San Joaquin Valley over the Grapevine and back in one day. Uphills were another matter. Still, our 2013 Leaf did better than I expected. Here is a summary of the trip distances and SOC at each phase.

Home: SOC 100%
11.1 miles to Nissan of Bakersfield (mostly freeway): 84% SOC on arrival. Charged to 99%
38.3 miles to Flying J at Frazier Park (all freeway): 35% SOC on arrival. Charged to 86%.
75.2 miles to Sierra Madre VIlla metro station in Pasadena (all freeway via I5, 134 and 210). 20% SOC on arrival. Charged to 64%.
32.6 miles to CSU Northridge DC quick charger. 30% SOC on arrival. Charged to 98% in about 40 minutes.
15 miles to Nissan of Valencia via surface streets. 83% SOC on arrival. Charged to 100%.
37.3 miles to Flying J in Frazier Park (all freeway). 40% SOC on arrival. Charged to 66%
48 miles home, mostly freeway. 20% SOC on arrival.

I didn't do much hypermiling stuff. Mostly I just drove at the speed of the slowest half of the traffic, and went light on the accelerator, keeping a steady pace as possible. Did follow trucks on some of the uphill runs, mostly because I slowed down a bit or happened to be in their lane where they were splitting the travel lanes due to construction. On the last leg I drove 65-73 mph almost the whole way. Only gained about 4% SOC on the northbound downslope of the Grapevine as a result. Was more interested in getting home and knew I had enough charge.

If I had it to do again, I would skip the charging at both Nissan dealers since it's doable without those stops and charging at high SOC is slow and not great for the battery from what I know. Don't know if anyone else has driven the Grapevine both ways in one day. It was definitely a learning experience on the car's capabilities, and I was pleasantly surprised. If only they had a QC at Frazier Park it would have made the trip a lot shorter. :)
hpver:
so... is it doable from CSUN to Frajzier Park with 70% charge?
How many chargers at Fraizer park? any waiting due to other EVs? open 24hrs? safe after dark?

cause... i wonder whether i can make a round-trip to Bakersfield from Northridge with reasonable travel/charging time...

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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Thu May 08, 2014 1:56 pm

Total Miles Driven : 97.1; Date: May 4, 2014
Leaf End Condition : Vey Low "---"
Route / Terrain: O'hare to Lagrange via US 12 and I-294, O'Hare to Crystal Lake via I-90 and Rt62, and back via Rt62 and IL-53
Speed: <60mph, mostly 45-55mph top speed
Weather: 48F, no heating
Miles/KWh: IDK

BTW I have made numerous 80+ miles trips.
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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Tue May 13, 2014 2:40 am

Total Miles Driven : 84 miles
Date : 05/05/2014
Leaf End Condition : Everything normal (17%' 18 miles of range remaining)
Route / Terrain : Mostly Interstate / relatively flat terrain - Buffalo Grove Il to Bedford Park Il
Speed : between 60mph (cruise control)
Weather : 60 degrees, humid, no air conditioner use

I'm amazed at perfect condition ranges especially with my Leaf approaching 20k miles
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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Fri May 16, 2014 9:37 am

2 weeks old 2014 leaf s
Total Miles Driven : 83.1 miles
Date : 05/13/2014
Leaf End Condition : Battery @ 18% and 17 miles of range remaining
Route / Terrain : Commute to and from DC with 3 people in the car
Speed : range 20ish to 60ish
Weather : 70-90 degrees, humid, AC used last couple of miles

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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:19 pm

Finally had a chance to run the 2014 Leaf to almost zero charge in Phoenix. Went 32 miles on the freeway (31 miles on the freeway, 1 mile off) at 65-68mph with full air in 98-100 degree weather with 3 people in the car. When I got there, I had 50% of the battery left and 37mph on the gauges. The car sat for 4 hours, the temperature went up to 103 degrees and the car said it had 39 miles left when we got back in. Went 30 miles at 60-65mph and intermittently turned the air on/off. Got home, 32 miles back and the car was showing the horizontal bars with about 3 miles to go. Made it home but if we were running at 70mph with full air at 100-110 degree weather, I'm guessing the maximum range would be about 45-50 miles safely without getting into the red zone.

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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:43 am

rconaway wrote:... I'm guessing the maximum range would be about 45-50 miles safely without getting into the red zone.
"Red zone"? I hope you aren't referring to those two bars at the bottom of the battery capacity gauge that are colored red. They have no meaning. None. (They are a holdover from the very early 2011 model LEAFs; long story so I won't go into it.)

Your landmarks for the lower part of the battery state of charge are Low Battery Warning (LBW) and Very Low Battery Warning (VLBW). Since you didn't mention them, I'm guessing that you have an S model, because it doesn't give the audible warnings that one gets with the SV and SL models. Instead, at LBW the S model puts up a low battery message on the dash, plus a yellow caution symbol, and the "Guess-o-Meter" (GOM) number starts flashing. When you get even lower in charge you get another low battery message and the GOM starts flashing "---". That's VLBW. At that point you have a few miles to find a charge station; how many depends on the driving conditions, such as speed and temperature. Unless you are close to your destination you should have the climate control system off by this time.

Your best indicator of charge is your % State of Charge (%SOC) meter. However, as your battery degrades each %SOC will represent less charge. But LBW and VLBW will remain at fixed charge levels, so the miles you can drive after the warnings, other conditions being equal, will remain about the same.

If you get a chance to do your experiment again, try to see at what %SOC the LBW and VLBW happen. Just be aware that those numbers will rise over time as the battery degrades and the total "100%" battery capacity declines in actual energy content.
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Re: I Beat EPA's 73 Mile Range : Report your experience

Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:35 pm

FYI, I drove 100 miles Sunday on a relatively flat freeway, windows down half way, no a/c, 98 temp, no to little wind, and cruise set at 55mph actual (58 on speedo) with only 86% capacity! This 'tweaked' pack is doing better than the previous one. When I lost the first CB at 8500 miles/8 mos., it read 85%/54.9AH. Then a few months later, it read 87%/ 56.9 AH/ 239 Gids. Now I'm at 11000 miles/ 55.7 AH/ 86%. My other LEAF kept losing capacity after losing the first CB.
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