Lopton
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Leaf Number: 300864
Location: San Fernando Valley, CA

Re: RULES FOR NEW LEAF OWNERS

Sun Jun 05, 2011 7:43 pm

hobbyguy wrote:Question on Santa Monica Charge Points. Are they free to use, you just need the card to unlock and start and finish charging? I got the free card during April, but opted not to connect to a credit card. Are the one's at LAX also accessible with the card that requires no credit card attached? Thanks, I just don't see anything on this topic, I guess I am confued, nothing new there.
Just hit 10,000 miles today :D
The Santa Monica ones in the parking garage are free.
-Matt
Original 2011 Leaf SV #857 - Total Loss on 11/27/2015
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planet4ever
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Delivery Date: 02 May 2011
Leaf Number: 1537
Location: Morgan Hill, CA, south of San Jose

Re: RULES FOR NEW LEAF OWNERS

Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:19 am

Caracalover wrote:
planet4ever wrote: I'm guessing that you haven't gotten the April firmware upgrade, right? I think ten miles per bar is really high with that change. ... But then maybe you do have it, and are just a much better EV driver than I am.

Ray
You are right, I haven't gotten the firmware upgrade yet, but I have stopped looking at the range meter, so not using that as a base.I enjoy gaining charge so I do take it easy about half the time, but I am never seen as slow. I have never pushed the limits of the charge (Have only charged to 100% once or twice, never been into the bottom red), but with a 30 mile commute RT for a couple months I have noticed that I get a rough ten miles per bar. Made the 30 mile round trip to Burbank twice in one day, which made the wife a little nervous but I had confidence, even though the second trip was to the Castaway in Burbank. I actually want to put a smiley face sticker over that darn range meter number - it just bugs me and is useless, don't think any fix will help either.
OK, but just so you don't confuse people who do have the upgrade (probably most people, by now), the bars are effectively "thinner" with it, and there is now quite a bit of reserve at the bottom after the last one is gone. And I do mean the last one, even the two next to the red capacity marks. I agree with you on the guessometer. I think it only confuses people who try to make any sense out of it.

Ray
End of April 2013: Traded my 2011 SL for a 2013 S with charge pkg.

91040
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Location: Los Angeles, CA

Re: RULES FOR NEW LEAF OWNERS

Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:18 am

cdub wrote:How many bars does it take to get back to Glendale on the freeway? I worry about the climb up the 2.
As a rough estimate, at 60mph, I used one bar of energy from the low point of the 2 in Eagle Rock, to where the grade flattens out about 2 miles later. Until then, I had been averaging about 6 miles/bar of 60 mph, freeway driving coming from Orange County.
1st Capacity Bar loss 30k mi 16mo
2nd- 49k mi 25.5mo 51.5Ah
3rd- 73k mi 36.5mo 46.9Ah
4th- 86.5k mi 43mo 42.6Ah
5th- 101k mi 50.5mo 38.4Ah, end 36.1Ah
New Battery 9/28/15 104k mi 66.1Ah
1st- 160.5k mi 34mo 54Ah
2nd- 184.4k mi 53mo 49Ah

cdub
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Re: RULES FOR NEW LEAF OWNERS

Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:56 am

Awesome. I used 2 bars getting from my house in La Crescenta, CA to Studio City today. It was charged to 80%. I lost the first bar pretty quickly - maybe in reality it was a half bar when charged to 80%. Charging to 80% gave me 10 bars when I started up in the morning.

The range-o-meter seems pretty useless for guessing range. Slightly helpful at times... but gives you heartache at others. Maybe there will be a software update later where you can toggle between the range available and a state of charge percentage on that screen.

I coasted and regened down the 2. Tried hard to get that bar back... but alas. :)
La Crescenta, CA
Nissan LEAF™ ETEC trim, Cayenne Red
Reserved: 4/20
Ordered: 10/16 (Sept. order)
Delivered: 6/2 (4-22er)

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Herm
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Re: RULES FOR NEW LEAF OWNERS

Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:19 am

cdub wrote:
The range-o-meter seems pretty useless for guessing range. Slightly helpful at times... but gives you heartache at others. Maybe there will be a software update later where you can toggle between the range available and a state of charge percentage on that screen.
I call it the Guesstimator™, it should be reliable once the car is for sale in Florida and other flat states.. then you will only see drastic changes when you speed up or slow down, everyone will get the hint then :idea:

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TomT
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Leaf Number: 000360
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Re: RULES FOR NEW LEAF OWNERS

Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:30 am

The guessometer is only accurate if you always drive the exact same speed and on perfectly level roads. I'd not hold my breath for a software upgrade to add a SOC meter, however some foks ARE working on an aftermarket meter.
cdub wrote:
The range-o-meter seems pretty useless for guessing range. Slightly helpful at times... but gives you heartache at others.
Leaf SL 2011 to 2016, Volt Premier 2016 to 2019, and now:
2019 Model 3; LR, RWD, FSD, 19" Sport Wheels, silver/black; built 3/17/19, delivered 3/29/19.

cdub
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Re: RULES FOR NEW LEAF OWNERS

Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:53 pm

DId a test today and drove back to my house from the start of the 2 freeway by the 5 to my house. I kept it in D - got up to 68 at times going up the big hill.

I used up 3 bars. Not bad. (but who knows how much of that first bar I had when I started) I did it more aggressively in D so I'd know the worst case scenario... so to be safe I need 3 bars to get up the hill back to my house.
La Crescenta, CA
Nissan LEAF™ ETEC trim, Cayenne Red
Reserved: 4/20
Ordered: 10/16 (Sept. order)
Delivered: 6/2 (4-22er)

VIN: 2106

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TRONZ
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Delivery Date: 31 Jan 2011
Leaf Number: 202
Location: Denver, CO

Re: RULES FOR NEW LEAF OWNERS

Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:24 am

You might want to add a 6th rule.

#6, Using a J1772 station one day does NOT mean it will be available for you the next day!

I witnessed my first charge station "log jam" last night at Fashion Island. Three random silver LEAFs show up to use only 2 chargers! Hope that third guy was not at the end of a long road trip. With LEAFs getting delivered at a rapidly increasing rate and no new L2 stations (yet?), I will no longer assume stations are always available. It's time to assume they are always taken until Ecotality actually does some work.
Every start, is as good as any start can ever be. - Douglas Darden

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2011 LEAF SL VIN#202, Delivered 01.30.11. Now, by far, the oldest LEAF in Colorado.

cdub
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Re: RULES FOR NEW LEAF OWNERS

Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:15 am

Tell Chragepoint to add more. I won't be happy until they're in every parking spot. :)
La Crescenta, CA
Nissan LEAF™ ETEC trim, Cayenne Red
Reserved: 4/20
Ordered: 10/16 (Sept. order)
Delivered: 6/2 (4-22er)

VIN: 2106

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Kataphn
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Delivery Date: 13 Jun 2013
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Re: RULES FOR NEW LEAF OWNERS

Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:36 pm

cdub and others....happy to be Plan D. We are just off the 10 between downtown LA and the westside.
PM me for my phone number if you want this "insurance". :D Also there are 4 chargepoint free no card needed charging stations at the Calif. Science Center parking structure...if they're not ICEd...in Exposition Park near USC.
Kat
Delivered: May 3, 2011
VIN: 1467 made 3-7-11
SL, Blue, eTec trim, EV project Blink
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