Rbrown125
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Range

Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:22 pm

Still trying to decide if the Leaf will work for me. The postings have the ranges across the board. I'm just trying to determine if it will get me to work. I live in the Inland Empire and drive to LA daily; 65 miles one way, 60 on the freeway. I currently have a Prius and know how to maximize the mileage. I consistantly get 52mpg after 170,000 miles. If I drive the leaf at a moderate speed 55 to 60, will I get at least 70 miles. Does anyone have any experience in this area. I'm a little concerned with the wind tunnel in the Fontana area. I love the car and technology, and I'm planning to install a couple of charging stations at work to support other drivers. Any advice for a newbe would be appreciated.

Lopton
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Location: San Fernando Valley, CA

Re: Range

Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:37 pm

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source= ... 31012&z=10

That is a map of the route I came home from the dealership. I drove it between 60-70 and ended up with 62 miles driven 8bars used and 4 bars left. Note this was pre-software update, which means I would end up with more like 2-3 bars left with new software. If you drive conservatively I don't see any problem with it but you would need ample time to charge at work using level 2, is that available for certain for you?

I would say myself that you may considering waiting for the next round of EV's.. but if you are daring go for it ;)

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Herm
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Re: Range

Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:42 pm

I would suggest you lease for 3 years, you will be cycling the battery nearly 100% TWICE every day.. may not have the range in about 3-4 years.

Based on the assumption the batteries can handle about 1500 heavy cycles.. and I am well known for being an optimist.

Never mind, I dont think you can get a lease for driving almost 40k miles a year.

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DeaneG
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Location: Cupertino, CA

Re: Range

Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:46 am

The one-way range will be close, you couldn't run any errands at lunch or after work, and you'd have to charge at work for about 8 hours at 240V.

I've owned my Leaf for about two months, and am very comfortable with a 30-40 mile daily drive. I would stress out daily trying to do 70.

My recommendation would be to skip this generation Leaf and wait for something with about 50% more range (EPA 110 miles for example). Even then, you'd need to arrange for 240V charging at work.
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TomT
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Delivery Date: 01 Mar 2011
Leaf Number: 000360
Location: California, now Georgia
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Re: Range

Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:58 am

I agree with the majority: While it is technically possible, there are just too many variables and uncertainties in such a scenario and it would appear the Leaf is just not a good fit for your requirements. I'd stick with the Prius.

Rbrown125 wrote:Still trying to decide if the Leaf will work for me. The postings have the ranges across the board. I'm just trying to determine if it will get me to work. I live in the Inland Empire and drive to LA daily; 65 miles one way, 60 on the freeway. I currently have a Prius and know how to maximize the mileage. I consistantly get 52mpg after 170,000 miles. If I drive the leaf at a moderate speed 55 to 60, will I get at least 70 miles. Does anyone have any experience in this area. I'm a little concerned with the wind tunnel in the Fontana area. I love the car and technology, and I'm planning to install a couple of charging stations at work to support other drivers. Any advice for a newbe would be appreciated.
Last edited by TomT on Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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91040
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Delivery Date: 06 May 2011
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Re: Range

Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:31 am

113 miles round trip (about 100 miles at 60mph freeway). 100% charge. 7 bars to get there. 3.75 hour charging to full on L2. 10 bars to get back.
Gentle acceleration, steady speed though letting speed drop a bit going up hills and increase going down. I did go 60mph up the 2 mile grade on the 2 from Eagle Rock.
With future capacity degradation of the battery...?
1st Capacity Bar loss 30k mi 16mo
2nd- 49k mi 25.5mo 51.5Ah
3rd- 73k mi 36.5mo 46.9Ah
4th- 86.5k mi 43mo 42.6Ah
5th- 101k mi 50.5mo 38.4Ah, end 36.1Ah
New Battery 9/28/15 104k mi 66.1Ah
1st- 160.5k mi 34mo 54Ah
2nd- 184.4k mi 53mo 49Ah

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Re: Range

Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:16 am

91040 wrote:113 miles round trip (about 100 miles at 60mph freeway). 100% charge. 7 bars to get there. 3.75 hour charging to full on L2. 10 bars to get back.
You drove 60mph on the hwy?.. not in CA from what I see posted in this board :)

91040
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Re: Range

Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:35 pm

Yes, 60mph on the freeway. Los Angeles/Orange County- La Crescenta valley to Costa Mesa and back. Left Sunday around 6pm returned after midnight.
1st Capacity Bar loss 30k mi 16mo
2nd- 49k mi 25.5mo 51.5Ah
3rd- 73k mi 36.5mo 46.9Ah
4th- 86.5k mi 43mo 42.6Ah
5th- 101k mi 50.5mo 38.4Ah, end 36.1Ah
New Battery 9/28/15 104k mi 66.1Ah
1st- 160.5k mi 34mo 54Ah
2nd- 184.4k mi 53mo 49Ah

Herm
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Re: Range

Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:18 pm

91040 wrote:Yes, 60mph on the freeway. Los Angeles/Orange County- La Crescenta valley to Costa Mesa and back. Left Sunday around 6pm returned after midnight.
I was just being funny, but did you feel your life was at risk at any time?.. btw, I always drive 55 on the hwy.

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TomT
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Re: Range

Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:38 pm

I sure hope the rear crash protection on the Leaf is robust! :lol:

IMHO, people seeing a Leaf in the slow lane going well below the prevailing speed will do nothing to sell EVs as a viable concept...
Herm wrote:btw, I always drive 55 on the hwy.
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