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Re: Mexico to Canada via Electric Highway

Sat May 19, 2012 10:00 am

TonyWilliams wrote:
UhClem wrote:I saw an EcoTality press release on a new QC near Lake Union in Seattle, but I'd guess the chance of that being available is essentially 0.
Maybe they'd like to sponsor my run? :mrgreen: I can't find an address for the current Bellingham DC charger. It's not on the AeroVironment site that I can find.

Here is the address for the Bellingham DC: 222 36th st.

These DC chargers are just coming online now, officially on the 30th of May, but a MNL member got a charge in the last few days by calling the 888-833-2148 number and AV turned it on for him.

There is a regional thread you can look at for the Seattle area that dicusses all this, start at page 120 or so: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... start=1190

Keep us posted, this is a facinating idea. Wish I could take the time to try this out myself, but hope to live it through your posts Tony! If you need a place to stay and L2 overnight in Seattle, let me know.
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Re: Mexico to Canada via Electric Highway

Sat May 19, 2012 1:09 pm

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Well, before I launch, I intend to have a fairly detailed plan, with plenty of alternatives when things go wrong, as they will.

I'm very familiar with California, and lived in the east SF bay area for 10 years. Lived in Sacto for one winter. Lived in Ventura County, Orange County, and now San Diego (not necessarily in that order).

That climb at Mt Shasta, through Weed is going to be the single hardest part.
Ah, well then you don't need my help for the details in the Bay Area, Whereabouts in the East Bay - I've lived here all my life, but have moved around a fair amount?
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Re: Mexico to Canada via Electric Highway

Sat May 19, 2012 5:26 pm

It looks like I'll have to leave June 14 to make the EAA meeting in Silicon Valley on June 16.

Unless the meeting is in the morning!

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Re: Mexico to Canada via Electric Highway

Sun May 20, 2012 10:45 am

From Santa Rosa, California to Grants Pass, Oregon is only about 10 miles further on the coastal route through Willits, Garberville, Eureka, Crescent City (each about 65 to 85 miles apart).

385 miles coastal, 375 miles inland central hot valley. Easy choice.

In terms of time, I miss the Ashland, Oregon QC station, which adds many, many hours.

I think I can do this at 200-250 miles per day, so 2 days from SJC to Grants Pass. Overnight in Crescent City so that I can sleep through a full charge and roll in the following morning (85 miles away) on my first leg of the Electric Highway.

If I leave Thursday, June 14, in two days, I can be set to launch on San Jose, CA on Saturday, which should take me all the way to Willits or Garberville Saturday night. Sunday night in Crescent City.

Monday in Oregon, which means Washington on Tuesday or Wednesday, and Pasco, Washington (after Canada) by Friday. About 10 days total.

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Re: Mexico to Canada via Electric Highway

Sun May 20, 2012 11:48 am

planet4ever wrote:(I did sneak the temperature up to 74, though.) What was not so good was that I went from 100% to LBW in 68.6 miles. I was driving 45-50 MPH for about 25 of those miles. I think I was close to VLBW when I got home at 74.7 miles.
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When you put the temp at 74, what was your kW usage and how many miles did it say you would lose? I've found it uses much less energy set at 60, no Auto, fan speed set to 1 or 2. It uses just a sliver of energy and it's always 0 miles to 1 lost. I used to set it higher too thinking it would save, but the kW usage was never a sliver like it is now and it never read 0-1 miles lost.
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Re: Mexico to Canada via Electric Highway

Mon May 21, 2012 11:36 am

Just got off the phone with the Nissan dealer at 1275 Santa Rosa Ave, Santa Rosa, CA (707-545-7050) and talked to "Don" who said that I could not charge there if I didn't buy the car there. He didn't know anything about a quick charger, so he suggested that I talk to David on Wednesday.

I really need a bit of help on the coastal Big Sur route, from San Luis Obispo to Monterey. Suggestions for any place that might have a place to plug in. Obviously, there won't be J1772; I'm worried about basic electricity. Also, recommendations for a place to stay about midway on highway 1.

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Re: Mexico to Canada via Electric Highway

Mon May 21, 2012 3:00 pm

TonyWilliams wrote:Just got off the phone with the Nissan dealer at 1275 Santa Rosa Ave, Santa Rosa, CA (707-545-7050) and talked to "Don" who said that I could not charge there if I didn't buy the car there. He didn't know anything about a quick charger, so he suggested that I talk to David on Wednesday.

I really need a bit of help on the coastal Big Sur route, from San Luis Obispo to Monterey. Suggestions for any place that might have a place to plug in. Obviously, there won't be J1772; I'm worried about basic electricity. Also, recommendations for a place to stay about midway on highway 1.
Hwy 1 in that section just doesn't give you many options. I think you'd probably need to charge/stay in San Simeon, and then hit this place:

http://www.bigsurcamp.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://rvparkreviews.com/regions/Califo ... g_Sur.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I didn't stay there, but it's the only place I can find in that section with 50 amp service.

With a full charge and no headwinds, you might just be able to make it the 90 odd miles to Monterey from San Simeon. I drove it coming south from Monterey a couple of months ago, and the section from south of Big Sur to south of the Monterey County line is fairly winding, and there was some roadwork underway in that section that slowed things down (single-lane convoying) even more when we passed through, but that may be fixed now. It's not too fast from Monterey to Big Sur, open and fast from just south of the Monterey County line to San Simeon. 101 would give you a lot more options, but will be hot and a lot less scenic.
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Re: Mexico to Canada via Electric Highway

Wed May 23, 2012 1:05 am

Thanks Guy. I reserved an RV spot with 50 amp service in Big Sur.

Recommendations up through Crescent City. Places that will have things to do whilst charging?

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Re: Mexico to Canada via Electric Highway

Wed May 23, 2012 12:25 pm

TonyWilliams wrote:Thanks Guy. I reserved an RV spot with 50 amp service in Big Sur.

Recommendations up through Crescent City. Places that will have things to do whilst charging?
Well, there's always this in Hopland if you've never been there, although I doubt you'll learn much new:

http://www.solarliving.org/visit-us/tours/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://199.167.200.157/8927" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BTW, it's something like 87 miles from Crescent City to Grant's Pass on 199, and you've got to go over two passes with a total climb of ~2,500 ft. Did you find somewhere to charge en route?
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Re: Mexico to Canada via Electric Highway

Wed May 23, 2012 1:00 pm

GRA wrote:BTW, it's something like 87 miles from Crescent City to Grant's Pass on 199, and you've got to go over two passes with a total climb of ~2,500 ft. Did you find somewhere to charge en route?
No, I haven't looked at that leg very closely yet. I'm kinda planning and making reservations as I go. I'm up to the Bay Area now.

I just ran that leg on the iPad Range App, and it shows 87 miles range with 5% battery degradation, 70F, and 900 feet net gain. I can mitigate the ups and down pretty good; slowing all the way up to near "stall speed", and as much regen as possible down, without gaining too much aerodynamic drag (too much speed). I'll be heavy, so it will be very close.

If anybody knows of anything with electricity along that route, that would be great!

It looks like Ukiah has a Super 8 motel with an EVSE. Just talked to David at Santa Rosa Nissan, and they have everything (concrete, wiring, etc) ready to go for the Blink DC charger. They're just waiting for Blink to reprogram and deliver the DC charger. I could get real lucky on this one.
I don't plan to do any real planning once I hit Oregon / Washington. If I need a camp spot or hotel, I'll pull out the iPad and find one.
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