woodyas
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Trickle charge question

Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:07 am

Just got new Leaf on Wednesday...and am truly overwhelmed. Trying to master every feature and just drive and enjoy...and yet my mind is trying to finish all the manuals, read this forum, and glean any acumen I can from the the folks that have driven the car for more than 2 days.

But I can say this: have no regrets leasing this.

Quick thing: I have the trickle charge for now...no really need for a shorter charge. (At least not yet.)But: is it ok to leave the charger plugged into the wall socket? Does this do any damage when the other charging device is not plugged into the Leaf? Does being plugged into the wall, with the car charging, use any electricity. Reason I ask: the owners manual said to always unplug the trickle charger from the socket.

I would rather leave plugged in--then I can putt into garage and if I want to charge grab the main thing hanging from my wall and plug into car. The socket is down and away--and would be pain to plug in every time.

Looking forward to my first weekend in the Leaf!
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garygid
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Re: Trickle charge question

Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:04 am

No problem leaving it plugged in, any more than any other new appliance.

However, good to check any new appliance (and the socket that
it is plugged into) frequently, just
in case it proves to be defective in some way.

Yes, it uses a little electricity whenever plugged in, but not much.

Instead of being overwhelmed by all the new information,
just try many shorter trips, so range is not even an issue,
and enjoy the "feel" of the e-ride.

Then, learn the Nav enough to Go Home.
Then, you set other destinations... before you start.

Mostly, relax and enjoy learning the "personality"
of your new eeee-car.

Congratulations!
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Re: Trickle charge question

Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:10 am

One important thing:

Out there in La Quinta, try to keep the car as
cool (shaded, etc.) as possible to better preserve
the battery capacity.

Welcome to the battery "reality".
But, since you have leased, it might not be such a big issue for you.
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Re: Trickle charge question

Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:45 am

It is actually recommended that u keep it plugged into the wall to prevent wearing out the socket prematurely
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Re: Trickle charge question

Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:09 am

I had mine plugged in for 5 months straight using a 6' appliance extension cord with #14 wire. No troubles at all.
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Re: Trickle charge question

Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:03 pm

I think Phil (Ingineer) has said the trickle charging EVSE as provided by Nissan pulls about 5 watts in standby, so less than some nightlights. Let's see ... if my mental math hasn't failed me, at fifteen cents per kWh that would work out to about fifty cents per month.

I agree, it's better to leave it plugged in; less wear on the house outlet, and a lot more convenient. Not that you couldn't replace the outlet once every year or two if you had to, but that's inconvenient, too.

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Re: Trickle charge question

Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:02 pm

The EVSE seems pretty hardy. I have left it plugged in, and have used it a lot in many places. No worries. One thing I overlooked until recently is the keyless entry. The rear hatch I knew about - you just have to have the fob in your pocket and the hatch will unlock allowing you to open it, but the side doors also will open if you press the little button on the handle - something I didn't notice. Very convenient.
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Re: Trickle charge question

Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:17 pm

One drawback I see in leaving your EVSE plugged into your garage is that you don't have it in your LEAF when you are out and about. Unexpected scenarios can arise when you would need the EVSE to trickle charge while away from your home base.

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Re: Trickle charge question

Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:25 am

Notice the Nissan EVSE "brick" has some holes in the case. When I was using the unit for daily charging, I looped some twine through one of those holes and used that to bear the weight and take all of the strain off the wall plug and cord. The brick is fairly heavy.
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

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Re: Trickle charge question

Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:56 am

Hello! I too use trickle as main charge. One month now and no issues. Did all the the action described by these experienced Leafers!

Question-I would like to get an effective plug monitor to record accurate kwh draw month to month. Recommendations?

Thanks!

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