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Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:12 am
by tjlyerly
Anyone else roll their eyes at that useless building tree animation in the upper left of the head's up display? The rest of the dash is filled with useful information to the driver (speed, current power consumption, battery temperature, range, etc..). That silly building tree animation is hokey at best and a potentially dangerous distraction at worst. If the driver is interested in driving efficiently and extending the range then there is plenty of information there to assist the driver in how they can acheive that goal. Building trees doesn't do that. Lose it entirely or replace it with some practical information for the driver such as outside and inside air temperature. If Nissan really want to encourage the driver to drive more efficiently then replace the tree with some running indicator like KW/Mile and color it red or green depending on whether they are driving better or worse than some assumed average of other drivers.

I realize that many Leaf owners have some inflated sense of importance that they are involved in some great environmental cause saving the world, but the vast majority of people (like myself) view that as bunk. The more the Leaf can divorce itself from this environmental mindset (symbolized by the Leaf and Tree icons) the more it will appeal to the vast majority of people who are more interested in reliable economic vehicle and not some overly subsidized environmental project that is doomed to failure.

Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:22 am
by smkettner
Yes and it is especially annoying because it resets every time I start the vehicle.
Should restart at each full recharge to 80% or 100% or once a day.
Better to just be gone.

Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:34 am
by sproqitman
tjlyerly wrote:I realize that many Leaf owners have some inflated sense of importance that they are involved in some great environmental cause saving the world, but the vast majority of people (like myself) view that as bunk.
Welcome to the forum, from one of the small minority with an inflated sense of importance. ;)

Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:44 am
by dgpcolorado
While the tree building is pretty silly, the arc with segments really can be used to teach efficient driving. It isn't perfect but it is a good guide for typical driving conditions. If you can accelerate and keep all the segments lit you will get better mileage. Hard to do going up steep hills though.

Nevertheless, I'd rather see the shifter indicator (D, Eco, N) there in that part of the "eyebrow" display. I often have trouble seeing the current shifter display when the steering wheel is in certain positions.

Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:45 am
by garymelora
tjlyerly wrote:replace it with some practical information for the driver such as outside and inside air temperature.
Inside air temperature display would help me use the climate control more efficiently and thus actually contribute to the environment.

Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:07 am
by eclecticflower
Ah, c'mon, some of you guys are just no fun. ;) There's plenty of "important information" about energy usage on the dash and in the nav. Embrace the trees :P and just enjoy driving. That little feature adds to the "fun quotient" of driving a tech-advanced vehicle (this car's got game!), plus it's a reminder of our small contribution to reducing emissions world-wide. :mrgreen: Not every driving moment has to be about measuring stuff. :roll: And don't you know by now if you're in Drive or Eco (surely you can feel the difference when the steering wheel obscures your view)?

Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:02 am
by tjlyerly
eclecticflower wrote:Ah, c'mon, some of you guys are just no fun. ;) There's plenty of "important information" about energy usage on the dash and in the nav. Embrace the trees :P and just enjoy driving. That little feature adds to the "fun quotient" of driving a tech-advanced vehicle (this car's got game!), plus it's a reminder of our small contribution to reducing emissions world-wide. :mrgreen: Not every driving moment has to be about measuring stuff. :roll: And don't you know by now if you're in Drive or Eco (surely you can feel the difference when the steering wheel obscures your view)?
You really need to get out more if fun is watching part of a tree trunk build every mile or so. Why not have a game of Tetris there controlled by minor movements of the steering wheel while driving? Makes about as much sense and only a little less safe. :mrgreen:

BTW - Reducing emissions in an electric car is an illusion. Really only does so at the end point of the carbon cycle which is beneficial only for smog emissions in large cities, not CO2 related but related to how well the typical ICE combusts hydrocarbons. If all the ICE engines out there efficiently burned fuel into CO2 and water only then there would be no smog. Electric car production front end loads all the CO2 emissions in manufature. Then of course is all the rare earth metals used which has other environmentatl consequences. My Leaf is powered by Coal at the power station and I hope will continue to be so I can enjoy low electric costs. Carbon emissions are of absolutely no concern to me and yes I do care about the environment. Just real environmental poisons not imagined ones.

Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:16 am
by eclecticflower
tjlyerly wrote:
eclecticflower wrote:Ah, c'mon, some of you guys are just no fun. ;) There's plenty of "important information" about energy usage on the dash and in the nav. Embrace the trees :P and just enjoy driving. That little feature adds to the "fun quotient" of driving a tech-advanced vehicle (this car's got game!), plus it's a reminder of our small contribution to reducing emissions world-wide. :mrgreen: Not every driving moment has to be about measuring stuff. :roll: And don't you know by now if you're in Drive or Eco (surely you can feel the difference when the steering wheel obscures your view)?
You really need to get out more if fun is watching part of a tree trunk build every mile or so. Why not have a game of Tetris there controlled by minor movements of the steering wheel while driving? Makes about as much sense and only a little less safe. :mrgreen:

BTW - Reducing emissions in an electric car is an illusion. Really only does so at the end point of the carbon cycle which is beneficial only for smog emissions in large cities, not CO2 related but related to how well the typical ICE combusts hydrocarbons. If all the ICE engines out there efficiently burned fuel into CO2 and water only then there would be no smog. Electric car production front end loads all the CO2 emissions in manufature. Then of course is all the rare earth metals used which has other environmentatl consequences. My Leaf is powered by Coal at the power station and I hope will continue to be so I can enjoy low electric costs. Carbon emissions are of absolutely no concern to me and yes I do care about the environment. Just real environmental poisons not imagined ones.
Now you're just stealing our joy... :(

Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:19 am
by tjlyerly
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Now you're just stealing our joy... :([/quote]

Yeah, I know. Wondering why I don't get invited to parties anymore.

Re: Lose the "Building Trees" on the head's up display

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:01 am
by TaylorSFGuy
How about a software update that displays the GID number in this space. Surely some info is being sent to it already. I may be underestimating the ease at which this could be done but seems to me that an LED (or whatever it is) can display any information it receives.

I too find the trees to be a waste of valuable display real estate.