goldbrick
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:14 am

Thanks! I really appreciate all your contributions here and of course the CAN-bridge which has enabled an entire cottage industry.

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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:44 pm

IEVS:
High Prices For Leaf Battery Packs Is Attempt To Discourage Off-Gridders
https://insideevs.com/news/453505/high- ... -gridders/
Guy [I have lots of experience designing/selling off-grid AE systems, some using EVs but don't own one. Local trips are by foot, bike and/or rapid transit].

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Dala
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:19 am

I recently made a complete cost breakdown video on my batteryupgrade prices (which also explains why I suck at managing a business)
https://youtu.be/j07p7-9_Dpk

SageBrush
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:59 pm

Dala, you are an inspiration. I will gladly support your environmentalism. What is the best way to send you money, meaning the least middle-man fees ?

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You mentioned in your video a couple failed upgrades. Care to share details that might help others avoid pitfalls ?
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:42 pm

Dala, I left a comment for you in the YouTube video comments. From one business person to another, I hope you find it useful as you seem like a genuinely good person who deserves to make an honest living from a viable business
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:00 pm

If anyone is in the market for a crashed 2019 SL Plus with a good battery my totaled SL plus goes up on auction next Friday. State Farm now owns it. https://www.copart.com/lot/57864930/sal ... unta-gorda

If I remember correctly the SOH was about 96% last time I checked about 2 months ago
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Dala
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:02 am

SageBrush wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:59 pm
Dala, you are an inspiration. I will gladly support your environmentalism. What is the best way to send you money, meaning the least middle-man fees ?

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You mentioned in your video a couple failed upgrades. Care to share details that might help others avoid pitfalls ?
I like Patreon, since it introduces a way to give something back. As a company in Finland you can't take donations without a permit, so a Patreon account is better since you get technical content via that.

I took on an upgrade where the battery was flooded with water, and had to be scrapped. Another upgrade had modules which were soo swelled that they weren't suitable for repurposing (taxi vehicle). Especially the rear stack can be messed up on 30kWh vehicles!
alozzy wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:42 pm
Dala, I left a comment for you in the YouTube video comments. From one business person to another, I hope you find it useful as you seem like a genuinely good person who deserves to make an honest living from a viable business
Thank you :)

mux
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:21 pm

Well, there you go, that's a big reason why muxsan has been able to grow towards sustainability. Sustainability isn't just a statement towards the environment; the business itself also needs to endure so its mission can be carried out fully and completely. We're very aware that battery products that we and our colleagues like Dala sell seem expensive. But that margin is necessary; to pay for inevitable mistakes as well as to pay for durable support towards the customers and these vehicles.

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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:36 pm

Mux,

Think we could find a US shop to install your range extender packs? Then its just a pack export/import?

Any future evolution of the product coming as the chemistry improves?
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mux
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Re: Battery Upgrades are very possible

Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:12 am

Right now, we don't have the production capacity to expand beyond a few installers in Europe. US installations aren't happening this year.

And yes, we're very much looking towards new cells. This won't happen super-soon, but definitely still in 2021. We're very supply-constrained and would like to shift to a new supply before shipping out (very) large amounts overseas.

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