ericsf
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Opening the charger port could be easier

Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:40 pm

I think that opening the access hatch to the charging ports should be MUCH easier since it's by far the most common "maintenance" thing you have to do with the LEAF. Placing it next to the engine compartment door release which we never should have to open (I am still looking for the oil dip stick) seem really wrong to me. With a LEAF you have to open this hatch at least 3 times more frequently than you'd need to open the gas hatch on a typical 300 mile range car so it should be 3 times easier right?

So far my experience is that everytime I walked out of to recharge I found myself standing in front of the car thinking "how come this thing is closed...oh duh.". I admit it's a bit my fault too: The same happened to me at the gas station many times in my previous life and I've only got the LEAF for 3 days so I probably need to get the new routine in my brain. But considering how often we'll have to open this thing don't you think it could be improved (like a button on the remote or something...)

What's the point of locking it anyway? It's not like people are going to be able to suck electricity from it right?

PS: That's the thing that bothers me the most so far so no need to tell how happy I am with this car!
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Re: Opening the charger port could be easier

Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:50 am

I think it's so no one will try to pour sugar directly into your battery. I hear it makes the electrons very sticky. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Opening the charger port could be easier

Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:33 am

planet4ever wrote:I think it's so no one will try to pour sugar directly into your battery. I hear it makes the electrons very sticky. :lol: :lol:
OOH! Good one. Someone once (a long time ago) poured sugar into the gas tank of my 1959 Impala. BIG TROUBLE!! :o :o :o
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Re: Opening the charger port could be easier

Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:42 am

derkraut wrote: OOH! Good one. Someone once (a long time ago) poured sugar into the gas tank of my 1959 Impala. BIG TROUBLE!! :o :o :o
If you pour some yeast in along with it you will make your own ethanol.
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Re: Opening the charger port could be easier

Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:45 am

I'd like to see a key-fob controlled actuator so I don't have to remember to pull the lever when I get out.
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Re: Opening the charger port could be easier

Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:57 am

turbo2ltr wrote:I'd like to see a key-fob controlled actuator so I don't have to remember to pull the lever when I get out.
Exactly. Atleast they should have it on the inside of the driver door (like the trunk release of my old car).
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Re: Opening the charger port could be easier

Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:09 am

I suppose it could have been designed in a way that it would be easier to open but to tell you the truth I don't even think about it now. The method I use is that I pull the release with my right hand after I get out of the car and standing between the open door and the car. I just reach in with my right hand and feel for the indent and pull.

Having the release available on the fob would certainly be cool but seems like another point of failure to me.

Now I do wish they put a light in there like I had on the Honda EV Plus and also add it to the door open indicator. Granted leaving the charge door open on the Leaf is not as critical as it was on the Honda EV Plus.
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Re: Opening the charger port could be easier

Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:15 am

I vote for putting the lever next to the parking brake lever. Then we could set the brake and open the port in one move. I hate having to reach down for that lever every time I park at a charger.
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Re: Opening the charger port could be easier

Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:58 am

I am only guessing at this, but perhaps Nissan wanted to place the latch to open the charge lid where a driver wouldn't release it by accident with an errant finger, coatsleeve, purse strap, etc. I would imagine that, if the hatch opened while driving at freeway speeds, the sudden force of the wind could damage or break it completely off --just like could happen with a car's hood. Come to think of it, I can't remember if the charge lid has a secondary "safety" latch under the lip like a hood. I hope so, because such accidents do happen, even when the primary latch is placed well out of the way.

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Re: Opening the charger port could be easier

Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:22 pm

I actually had a lengthy conversation about this with the Hyundai folks that were examining our LEAFs a few weeks ago. I mentioned that preparing the car to charge should be as effortless as possible (currently 5 separate steps if your on a timer). I think the most opportune decision to charge/not charge is done at the moment you hit the "Stop" button. The cover release/cap release should be electronic and together on one button AND another cover release/cap release/timer disable should be right next to it. These two button choices should be next to the Stop button and illuminate (in separate colors) after pressing to visually confirm your choice. Then charging would always just be two steps (button, plug in) no matter what choice you make and integrated with the normal shutdown flow. Hyundai took alot of notes on this. Since their new hybrid actually uses a Li-Poly pack, I think these guys are very serious about battery tech cars.
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