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Re: USB drive organization

Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:37 pm

garygid wrote:Then it is only the Classic iPod versions BEFORE 1.1.2 that are not compatible?
Right - and I guess all iPod Classics can be update to this version.
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Re: USB drive organization

Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:02 pm

I thought that earlier discussion concluded that some earlier units lacked the proper hardware to do the "full" connection with the LEAF, and thus could not be updated?

Maybe they could "work", but only is some very simple manner?
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Re: USB drive organization

Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:36 am

Thanks evnow! Now I just need to figure out what version of firmware my iPod HAS. :)

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Re: USB drive organization

Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:17 am

Unfortunately nothing is powered when the car is off, including the cigarette lighter. I run my laptop in the car off an inverter for work and out in the field. I hate not having a always powered cigarette lighter. My inverter has "soft" power button, so every time I start the car I have to remember to turn it on.

I'm thinking I should probably hack it and change the lighter plug to constant power...
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Re: USB drive organization

Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:18 pm

Well I just broke down and bought a used 5th generation ipod. The navigation for the USB drive was just to cumbersome for me. The LEAF ipod navigation is just much easier (by genre, artist, album, playlist, etc) and faster. ipods with broken screens and bad click wheels are pretty cheap on ebay. Maybe in MY2012 or later they will improve the USB navigation system (so it actually reads the MP3 id tags and not just the file names).

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Re: USB drive organization

Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:50 pm

This seems to be an Asian car thing. My Acura is the only car I have ever had that powered off the cigarette lighter when the car was off. I rewired it to be on all the time.

turbo2ltr wrote:Unfortunately nothing is powered when the car is off, including the cigarette lighter. I run my laptop in the car off an inverter for work and out in the field. I hate not having a always powered cigarette lighter. My inverter has "soft" power button, so every time I start the car I have to remember to turn it on.

I'm thinking I should probably hack it and change the lighter plug to constant power...
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Re: USB drive organization

Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:21 pm

prberg wrote:Well I just broke down and bought a used 5th generation ipod. The navigation for the USB drive was just to cumbersome for me. The LEAF ipod navigation is just much easier (by genre, artist, album, playlist, etc) and faster. ipods with broken screens and bad click wheels are pretty cheap on ebay. Maybe in MY2012 or later they will improve the USB navigation system (so it actually reads the MP3 id tags and not just the file names).
Yes, the USB navigation is a pain. I'm renaming all the deepest directories in my collection to Genre-Artist-Album. Also all the tracks to track#-title. This works fine - except I can't really see the album name in the list since Leaf only shows a few characters and that cuts off most of the album. Even when I use just one letter to denote the genre.

I wonder whether I can get a "broken" iPod for the same price as an USB stick (about $1 / GB) ... how much did you pay ?
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Re: USB drive organization

Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:48 pm

evnow wrote:
prberg wrote:Well I just broke down and bought a used 5th generation ipod. The navigation for the USB drive was just to cumbersome for me. The LEAF ipod navigation is just much easier (by genre, artist, album, playlist, etc) and faster. ipods with broken screens and bad click wheels are pretty cheap on ebay. Maybe in MY2012 or later they will improve the USB navigation system (so it actually reads the MP3 id tags and not just the file names).
Yes, the USB navigation is a pain. I'm renaming all the deepest directories in my collection to Genre-Artist-Album. Also all the tracks to track#-title. This works fine - except I can't really see the album name in the list since Leaf only shows a few characters and that cuts off most of the album. Even when I use just one letter to denote the genre.

I wonder whether I can get a "broken" iPod for the same price as an USB stick (about $1 / GB) ... how much did you pay ?

I paid $40 for a 80gb 5th gen unit. Working good.. but I actually don't use it as much as I thought I would. My commute is pretty short so I don't get much of a chance to listen to alot of music. But it sure is easier to deal with than the USB stick.

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Re: USB drive organization

Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:15 pm

prberg wrote:I paid $40 for a 80gb 5th gen unit. Working good.. but I actually don't use it as much as I thought I would. My commute is pretty short so I don't get much of a chance to listen to alot of music. But it sure is easier to deal with than the USB stick.
I got a non-broken but used unit for about $1/GB. Looks like a better deal than pure USB sticks in this case.

My commute is short too - but it will be useful over the weekends when we drive around much more and my wife can figure out what to play. Moreover I can make playlists and use them.

Thats the theory. If it doesn't work out - I can sell off the iPod. That was the reason for buying a working unit.
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Re: USB drive organization

Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:47 am

Has anyone really identified the play order that it does by default on a USB drive? Manual says that it plays in the order that the files were put onto the drive, but I'm seeing it playing by file name order. I'm not sure if that's just how my software ended up copying it, so it happens to be the same either way or not.

I normally listen to a playlist in random, but like others have mentioned I don't like how it skips to the next numerical song rather than the next random song when advancing to the "next" track. So I'm considering writing a little program to help shuffle the songs (update/create date, or filename) so that the car thinks it's playing "in order" but in reality the playlist is randomized. This might allow me to order my son's playlists in order (like sesame street albums) while my music playlists are random.

There are freeware programs out there that can do this for the "order written to disk" method, but it wouldn't be hard to write up my own program to do it either way and gives me a little more control.

What are other people doing to work around this, other than going the ipod route?

(fyi, here's the extremely tiny USB drive that I have ordered for this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820191311)
EDIT: I don't recommend this USB drive. It has a very bright blue LED that blinks continuously. If I continue using it, I'll have to find a way to sufficiently cover the light, or disable it in some way. Maybe I'll just dunk the end in black paint or something...
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