DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Map update Aug 2020

Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:26 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:00 am
Its true.

Does Tesla still use google mapping data, or have they moved to apple/another provider?

I have noticed Waze features now popping up in google maps (police trap alerts, etc.).

Once Android wireless support gets wide adoption in the car head units, I think the other sat navs will fall away.

Since I don't always plug my phone in when getting in the car, having the on tap maps is helpful at times.
Google bought WAZE about 3-4 years ago. Another case of "If we can't figure out how to do it better than them we buy them"

As far as the privacy thing; not sure how its detrimental to me other than targeted advertising that occasionally actually hits the target or the traffic alerts that seem to be very accurate 99% of the time. Of course, its easier when you are tracking 5,000 phones in the area.
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Re: Map update Aug 2020

Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:47 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:26 pm
Google bought WAZE about 3-4 years ago. Another case of "If we can't figure out how to do it better than them we buy them"

As far as the privacy thing; not sure how its detrimental to me other than targeted advertising that occasionally actually hits the target or the traffic alerts that seem to be very accurate 99% of the time. Of course, its easier when you are tracking 5,000 phones in the area.
Well, besides any logging it may do of your queries, locations and so on, if you have it enabled, Google can track where you have been: https://www.businessinsider.com/how-do- ... on-history. I disable that and also don't use Google Maps signed in (however, that's required to d/l their offline maps). I also don't use Waze signed in.... but Google can sure have enough info about you w/o signing in if you use it enough and have common start and end points and/or patterns.

And, some people find Google Now creepy, so I disable that. And, location info is disabled on the Android phone I carry around. My primary phone is an iPhone but I usually carry around 2 or 3 phones (personal iPhone 8, work Android phone (Pixel 3), and another iOS test device).

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Re: Map update Aug 2020

Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:06 pm

WetEV wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:59 am
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:49 am
Since Google added the ability to download maps ahead of time in case you are in an area with no cellular service, I no longer see the point of putting up with outdated in car NAV maps.
Google vs the car companies on navigation.

Google has far more users. Google has far more data and computers. Google can target far more advertising based on the navigation destinations. The only thing that the car companies have to offer is privacy of searches. Just remember you are naked in Google's eyes.
Well, there is a workaround and that is downloading maps ahead of time and go to airplane mode. This option is for those times when you have no cellular signal. Then you only use GPS but you get no traffic updates and that is a major problem around here.
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Re: Map update Aug 2020

Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:21 pm

^^^
I guess that can work as long as you delete the Google Maps app before you re-enable connectivity since I have no idea if Google stores your location history, queries, etc. and uploads it upon reconnecting...

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Re: Map update Aug 2020

Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:39 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:21 pm
^^^
I guess that can work as long as you delete the Google Maps app before you re-enable connectivity since I have no idea if Google stores your location history, queries, etc. and uploads it upon reconnecting...
I am guessing they probably do store that info. They do have an option where you can opt out of being followed but guessing that is not all its supposed to be either.

But in the grand scheme of things, one would only have to check my public to all Facebook profile to track my movements. :roll:
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Re: Map update Aug 2020

Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:45 am

I don't have the same version of Leaf (or NAV) as the OP, but I upgraded the maps in my 2011 (for the first time) a couple of months ago and notice a difference where I now get traffic info (via XM) on some of the new highways; I also like the fact that charging stations are integrated into the NAV display (even if I don't use them). It seems as though the last update for the Gen 1 Leaf was 2018, so I did it before they pulled it all-together. It was as simple as an SD memory card swap.
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Re: Map update Aug 2020

Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:58 pm

Map update. For my vehicle that has a max range of 35 miles. Certainly no need for OTA map update on my 2012 SL...ever!

That's a good one and thanks for the laugh!
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