I think Torc is still waiting for the first deliveries from the company fabricating the kit.Evoforce wrote:It looks like a good fix!
Well, yes the lowest cabin temperature you can set is 60F. But if you do so, and the outside temperature is above 60F, the heater will not run. If it is below 60F outside, the heater will run to heat up the fluid. So I really did mean outside temperature.wwhitney wrote:To double check, that should be cabin temperature of below 60F, right? Because 60F is the lowest you can set the target cabin temperature to?GetOffYourGas wrote:This thread harkens back to the 2011/2012 Leafs, which had no "heater off" button. With our cars, you cannot run the fan only if the outside temperature is below 60F, regardless of the mode setting.
Cheers, Wayne
I'm confused. Are you saying that if it the cabin interior temperature is 65F, and the exterior temperature is 55F, and I set the HVAC system to 60F, it will run the heater? If so that's a crazy design.GetOffYourGas wrote:Well, yes the lowest cabin temperature you can set is 60F. But if you do so, and the outside temperature is above 60F, the heater will not run. If it is below 60F outside, the heater will run to heat up the fluid. So I really did mean outside temperature.
If the fluid temperature is the same as the outside temperature, then yes. Unless you have preheated the car, the fluid will be the outside temperature.wwhitney wrote:I'm confused. Are you saying that if it the cabin interior temperature is 65F, and the exterior temperature is 55F, and I set the HVAC system to 60F, it will run the heater? If so that's a crazy design.GetOffYourGas wrote:Well, yes the lowest cabin temperature you can set is 60F. But if you do so, and the outside temperature is above 60F, the heater will not run. If it is below 60F outside, the heater will run to heat up the fluid. So I really did mean outside temperature.
Cheers, Wayne
Ok good to know, sorry for you guys with the 2011/12 models.QueenBee wrote:Have you done this test after leaving you LEAF outside in the freezing cold? In our 2011s turning on the fan even with the AC off will cause there to be energy used by the heater when it's cold out.Ninjarider1978 wrote:Hey everyone, am I wrong to believe this thread is about running the fan only in defrost mode while the car is running? If that is the case then I can say that my 2015 S model will do that with no modifications. Simply have the climate control off, then adjust fan speed with the dial. This puts the fan on without AC or heater. Then press the mode button a few times until the defrost indicator is lit. It is lit at the same time as the vent for the feet. Forgive me if I am misunderstanding what this thread is about. Good night!
Thanks for testing, that sounds exactly the test I was thinking. In a 2011/12 this would have caused the heat to come up. Glad you love your LEAF and happy to see more who do!Ninjarider1978 wrote:Ok good to know, sorry for you guys with the 2011/12 models.QueenBee wrote:Have you done this test after leaving you LEAF outside in the freezing cold? In our 2011s turning on the fan even with the AC off will cause there to be energy used by the heater when it's cold out.Ninjarider1978 wrote:Hey everyone, am I wrong to believe this thread is about running the fan only in defrost mode while the car is running? If that is the case then I can say that my 2015 S model will do that with no modifications. Simply have the climate control off, then adjust fan speed with the dial. This puts the fan on without AC or heater. Then press the mode button a few times until the defrost indicator is lit. It is lit at the same time as the vent for the feet. Forgive me if I am misunderstanding what this thread is about. Good night!
So I gave it a try with it being 43 F (7 C) outside according to leafspy. Initially the car was maybe a few degrees C warmer in the car. I ran it in fan only mode on defrost, leafspy said it was only drawing 400W from the battery and 0W from both the heater and AC. I then tried heating the cabin up to a comfortable 20C (sorry I work in metric) then ran the same experiment, and got the same results. So I guess the issue is non existent in the 2015, thankfully cause up here in the NW we get a lot of fog on the windshield this time of year and it's very hard to drive for any length of time without the window fogging up. A few times I have had to make a lengthy trip and juggle distance with safety.
Hope to be more involved in these forums and I love my leaf!
I have observed that on my 2011 also.QueenBee wrote:... FWIW I've actually seen the heat come on while using the A/C on a mild day, presumably the fluid temperature got below whatever its desired setpoint was (60?) and needed to be warmed up.
I'm confident that their fix will address this issue, hopefully we get some communication from them about how things are progressing.TimLee wrote:I have observed that on my 2011 also.QueenBee wrote:... FWIW I've actually seen the heat come on while using the A/C on a mild day, presumably the fluid temperature got below whatever its desired setpoint was (60?) and needed to be warmed up.
On moderate spring and fall days the only way to avoid range reduction is to ventilate by opening windows.
Aggravating in such a wonderful quiet car.
I hope Torc's cable kit is a great fix.