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Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:15 am

Stranded with incapacitated leaf due to unbelievable charging post flaw

http://www.leaftalk.co.uk/showthread.ph ... -post-flaw
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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:30 am

incomprehensible.
you should write a cliff notes to explain the linked item.
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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:58 am

That's a sad story. It looks like they were using the L1 EVSE that came from Nissan. I wonder why they didn't leave it behind? (other than the obvious replacement cost...)

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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:00 pm

Blimey!
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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:02 pm

The solenoid would not open. If power dies there should be a provision for manual release of course, bad design. I can see some real brain power was applied here. A simple cut of the cord very close to the cover and then replacing the plug end of the EVSE for under $20 would have got you on your way with your EVSE. They could even retrieve the end and it certainly costs less than breaking the unit or all those people and removing the post with it still attached to the EVSE. At least they did not jack hammer the ground as well! How many people does it take to remove an EVSE?

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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:13 pm

EVDRIVER wrote:The solenoid would not open. If power dies there should be a provision for manual release of course, bad design. I can see some real brain power was applied here. A simple cut of the cord very close to the cover and then replacing the plug end of the EVSE for under $20 would have got you on your way with your EVSE. They could even retrieve the end and it certainly costs less than breaking the unit or all those people and removing the post with it still attached to the EVSE. At least they did not jack hammer the ground as well! How many people does it take to remove an EVSE?
The OP posted an update where he addressed this:
I thought about cutting the plug off, but leaving a (potentially) live wire hanging in the street didn't seem like the best idea.

For all we know (and we don't really know much about these posts) they may well reset at a given time each day, and it could have gone live after that.
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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:19 pm

It is east to cut the cord under the cover and slip a piece of tape over the end as well as a note. Not a big deal. If it was a blown breaker then someone needs to be sent to check it regardless, if it is a blown PS in the unit the same applies. Removing the charge station would result in even more exposed wires in the ground which is worse. In general I would not lock my EVSE plug in a unit like this ever.

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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:30 pm

Anyone know whether the door-lock solenoid in a Coulomb is of the fail-open or fail-closed variety?

Update:

From Coulomb's FAQ page:
What happens if there is a power failure while I'm charging my plug-in vehicle? How do I get my cord back?

During a power failure, the Coulomb ChargePoint Networked Charging Station will unlock. This is a patented feature. When power is restored, charging will resume, as long as your cord is plugged in. You can terminate the charging session normally with your Smart Card, remove your cord and the station will re-lock.
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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:51 pm

Might want to change the thread title. His LEAF wasn't incapacitated at all...just the EVSE was trapped.

Failing in an unlocked state is patented? Does that mean they can force everyone else to fail locked? :lol:
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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:56 pm

This is definitely a plus for having the J1772 end actually attached to the charging station, rather than having to use your own EVSE.
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