lenny
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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:58 pm

If this is a common problem, maybe get a very short extension cord with a power plug lock?

http://www.amazon.com/Master-Lock-488-R ... B0010EED30" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In case of emergency, unlock and leave the short extension behind. Maybe leave your contact phone # on it as well.

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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:07 pm

I would have just crow-barred the thing. Sorry, their machine doesn't have the right to hold you or your property hostage and I doubt if they'd want the press from insisting that it should have.

But the more intriguing question concerns the relationship with the cousin who apparently can be trusted in the garage, but not the HOUSE? Poor bloke! :lol:
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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:27 pm

lenny wrote:If this is a common problem, maybe get a very short extension cord with a power plug lock?
Best suggestion yet. I don't want to carry a crowbar and I don't want to carry cable cutters.
Actually, I do carry an extension cord. I also carry a small padlock that locks my L1 charger to my car.

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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:24 pm

1. It looks like the Nissan EVSE under the LEAF's hood,
with an inexpensive extension cord to the "Captive-End"
type charging station might be a "better" way to go.

2. Or, possibly use the short L6-20R to 5-15P adapter
cord with the Upgraded Nissan EVSE.

3. Nissan does provide a "crowbar", I think. The "other"
end of the supplied "Lug Nut Wrench" might work, right?
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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:27 pm

Kevin, please change the thread title. We don't want the Anti-EV Brigade trolling here and reporting "LEAF owners getting stranded again, EVs are an idea whose time has not come" or some such tripe.

Suggested replacement thread title: "Some public charging points can fail closed, trap your cable"
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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:40 pm

I don't understand why they didn't just unplug the J1772 from the LEAF and drive away.
Sure, you would rather not leave your portable EVSE left behind, but it was "locked down" so no one could take it.
They could have left a note on the EVSE, and called someone to retrieve it later.

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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:56 pm

garygid wrote:Or, possibly use the short L6-20R to 5-15P adapter
cord with the Upgraded Nissan EVSE.
That's all USA standards. Probably not going to help much in UK.

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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:59 pm

I thought about cutting the plug off, but leaving a (potentially) live wire hanging in the street didn't seem like the best idea.
Twist the protruding wires together so power can't be restored (trips the breaker) ;)
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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:58 am

i think we ALL need to reread the J1772 standard.

does it not have a pilot signal that must be engaged before power flows?

cutting the plug and leaving the wires dangling as i understand it is supposed to present zero danger PERIOD. no pilot signal, no power. period.

correct me if i am wrong
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Re: Stranded with incapacitated leaf

Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:05 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:i think we ALL need to reread the J1772 standard.

does it not have a pilot signal that must be engaged before power flows?

cutting the plug and leaving the wires dangling as i understand it is supposed to present zero danger PERIOD. no pilot signal, no power. period.

correct me if i am wrong
This was not a J1772 EVSE. The driver was using his UK portable EVSE to plug into a standard socket on the charging station. The plug could be energized without a car plugged in. I would have crowbarred the thing.
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