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Re: Meeting with Nissan, Phoenix, Jan 8, 2013 Breakfast

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:59 am
by Herm
I would like to know what will be the most useless question that will eat up the most amount of time being answered?

Re: Meeting with Nissan, Phoenix, Jan 8, 2013 Breakfast

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:12 am
by derkraut
Herm wrote:I would like to know what will be the most useless question that will eat up the most amount of time being answered?
There you go, Herm; you hit the nail on the head.

Re: Meeting with Nissan, Phoenix, Jan 8, 2013 Breakfast

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:41 am
by thankyouOB
question:
what will a new battery cost to install and what is the credit for the old one?

that is all i want to know, really.
and looking at the PR tea leaves, it aint going to be a pretty number, or they wouldnt be holding it in reserve and issuing the warranty for degradation first.

the good news leads, the bad news trails.

Re: Meeting with Nissan, Phoenix, Jan 8, 2013 Breakfast

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:51 am
by LEAFfan
hill wrote:
LEAFfan wrote: A CHAdeMO quick charger may be available.
On the back of a diesel truck hauling a diesel generator? . . . or a real one. As for chademo - I hope someone has the cojones to ask why corporate Nissan located next to Irvine spectrum (one of the high tech capitols of the nation) doesn't have a QC. Talk about fail. OOpppps no ... don't talk about fail. don't wana hurt any feelings. I'm sure they have TONS of great reasons for NOT getting on the ball w/ QC in So. Cal. That's what really matters ... having tons of great reasons ...
;)
That's Tony's quote, not mine. Mine is that there will be one, not may be one.

Re: Meeting with Nissan, Phoenix, Jan 8, 2013 Breakfast

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:00 pm
by Phoenix
TonyWilliams wrote:Why don't we leave this thread for the actual event?

Also, it would be wise to post SPECIFIC questions you want answered. Naturally, not every question may get responded to, or it may be changed into a different question.

I'd like to see Phoenix area Nissan dealers involved, and of course, the Arizona LEAFers, past, present and future.

I hadn't thought of driving the Rav4. It's 373 miles door to door. I could leave Sunday and arrive in Yuma Sunday night, and leave Yuma early Monday to arrive Monday evening in Scottsdale:

120 miles - Imperial, CA (two hours 40 amp charging needed on RV Park NEMA 14-50)
60 miles - Yuma, AZ (overnight, full range charge on any charger)

180 miles - subtotal, 3 hours travel, 2 hours charging during dinner Imperial, 5 hours total time


120 miles - Gila Bend, AZ (three hours 40 amp charging needed on RV Park NEMA 14-50)
80 miles - 6850 E. Main Street, Scottsdale, AZ

200 miles - subtotal, 3.5 hours travel, 3 hours charging during lunch, 6.5 hours total time


TOTALS each way - 380 miles, 11 hours enroute, 5 hours enroute charging, 6.5 driving at 60mph average
Anyone with a Tesla Model S going? Can I be your passenger?

Re: Meeting with Nissan, Phoenix, Jan 8, 2013 Breakfast

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:10 am
by sethr
I, too would like to request that you ask a couple of questions that have been on my mind. I suspect that not all that many people bought a G.E. Wattstation, but I am one of those that did. Every time I call Nissan, I'm told "don't worry, it's under warranty if you have a problem" even though my QUESTION was: "when will a fix be available for my Leaf?" "Are you even working on it?" I bought the Wattstation because it complied with the most standards, and here I am stuck with an ($1,000, unsellable) EVSE that makes me worry every time I charge. I would like a straight answer from Nissan: When is a solution coming? Or are they just hoping I don't have a power fluctuation until the warranty expires?

The 2013 model will supposedly have an addition showing % SOC on the dashboard. Can this be made available as an upgrade for 2011 & 2012 owners? (Personally, I'd pay for it if the price wasn't unreasonable; but it really should not cost us anything to have good instrumentation)

So, if you have time, I'd love to hear answers to the less important but nagging questions on my mind (and maybe other people, too). I'd like to actually enjoy my Leaf instead of worrying as I charge and worrying how much charge I really have left as I drive. Thanks!

Re: Meeting with Nissan, Phoenix, Jan 8, 2013 Breakfast

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:36 pm
by azdre
I've got a question for Nissan regarding usable capacity. At some point, there was a software update that reset the LBW threshold. The owners manual says that you should charge as soon as possible after LBW and 'preferably' EDIT OUT['definitely'] before no segments remain EDIT OUT [you hit VLBW]. So, the software update effectively reduced the available range of the car (that should be used). In our Phoenix test, RED 500 went over 10 miles past VLBW, and somewhere around 10-12 miles between LBW and VLBW. Those 20 miles to near-turtle improved the overall range of my car by 43% after the 3 lost bars. Is there anything that should be done (for other owners) to restore the range that they once had above LBW or should that part of the battery really rarely be used?

Re: Meeting with Nissan, Phoenix, Jan 8, 2013 Breakfast

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:27 pm
by surfingslovak
azdre wrote:Is there anything that should be done (for other owners) to restore the range that they once had above LBW or should that part of the battery really rarely be used?
That's a really good point. There was more than one LEAF that behaved this way, and exhibited disproportional range loss above the low battery warning. If this type of behavior could not be changed easily, through a software update or a sensor replacement perhaps, could the requirement that an owner needs to charge as soon as hitting the low battery warrning be waived instead?

Re: Meeting with Nissan, Phoenix, Jan 8, 2013 Breakfast

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:44 am
by Nubo
If someone could bring up the "Press OK" issue again...?

It would be lovely if that went away. ;)

Re: Meeting with Nissan, Phoenix, Jan 8, 2013 Breakfast

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:32 pm
by JeremyW
Haven't had a chance to read through this completely, but I'm seriously thinking about going. Is anyone else flying in? Any airport shuttle service available? ;)

Anyone else who's flying in... maybe we can coordinate how to get to the meeting (shuttle, taxi, etc).