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Re: Questions for Jan 8th Town Hall Mtg in AZ

Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:21 am

Hello, I will unfortunately be out of town next week for work and will not be able to make this town hall meeting. Will a transcript or recording of the event be made available? Or will I be able to conference call in perhaps?

Either way, my question is as someone from a family who owns a used car dealership I have an inside prospective on this. I can say that as soon as the battery issue surfaced initially the value of a Leaf dropped a huge amount. Frankly the Blue Book values are grossly over rated for the Arizona market right now. The resale value of my car has done down more quickly than almost any other car we've seen.

My question is what is Nissan doing to protect resale value? The new battery warranty should help some, but I fear the damage has already been done due to how long a reaction to this situation took to occur.
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Re: Questions for Jan 8th Town Hall Mtg in AZ

Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:56 am

JPWhite wrote:The 12v battery goes dead if the car is stored for an extended period while plugged in. Car does not start as a result. Is this going to fixed in the future such that the 12v battery will be kept topped off while plugged in either on 2011/2012 models or going forward with 2013 model?
+1 - good question for a long-term problem.

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Re: Questions for Jan 8th Town Hall Mtg in AZ

Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:16 am

I'd like to suggest asking if Nissan is working on giving drivers the option of coasting in neutral where desired or on other nearby smart-energy measures such as Honda has implemented, ... measures which seem to be able to increase range and mpge without increasing kWh.

If it turned out to be do-able, and configurable so that virtually any driver can make good hassle-free use of the feature, and without having to become a hobbyist, then it might really help with EPA range and mpge numbers, and without adding much (if any) cost or kWh to the vehicle.

Here is a thread for background:

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11090" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Questions for Jan 8th Town Hall Mtg in AZ

Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:28 am

Over the next year, many LEAFs will be coming off of their leases. Does Nissan have a plan in place to replace / swap out battery packs before re-selling them, or just test-and-replace certain cells as needed? If packs are replaced, will be it be refurbed packs at less than 100% capacity or will it be new packs?

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Re: Questions for Jan 8th Town Hall Mtg in AZ

Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:21 am

Will there be any improvement to charge station mapping in the dashboard display?
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Re: Questions for Jan 8th Town Hall Mtg in AZ

Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:27 am

evchels wrote:
LTLFTcomposite wrote:Here's a question I'd love the answer to... how many Nissan executives, middle management, or individuals involved in the design and development of the LEAF drive the car on a regular basis? i.e. do they eat their own dog food?
Not nearly enough in my experience! :) Though I was encouraged to see on my last visit to Franklin that at least a few hundred employees drive LEAFs (the employee parking lot was awesome!), including much of the product planning team. Still, it's a very valid question and one that should be posed- I've had a few employees tell me they wish more of their colleagues drove the car so they would better understand...all sorts of things.
During our visit to Japan to attend the LEAF owners event in Dec. 2012, we had an opportunity to meet
Hideaki Watanabe (Corporate Vice President, Zero Emission Business Unit) and Kadota-san (CVE) for dinner and the event on Dec. 8. He drives a LEAF so you can be sure if there are any issues, Kadota-san will hear about it. At the owners event, Watanabe-san, Kdota-san and Abe-san (Chief Product
Specialist, Mark Perry had comparable position at NNA I think) were subjected to a long Q&A session by Japanese LEAF owners. Unfortunately the session was in Japanese so much was lost in translation. There was at least one other Nissan Japan employee who I know that drives a LEAF. There were also a handful of LEAFs in the parking lot at the Zama battery plant. But I don't know how common it is for Nissan Japan employees to drive a LEAF.
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Re: Questions for Jan 8th Town Hall Mtg in AZ

Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:23 pm

Question regarding capacity.

Does the "Gid" meter truly represent capacity ? If not, how can we find out the battery capacity status before we see a bar go out ?
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Re: Questions for Jan 8th Town Hall Mtg in AZ

Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:48 pm

jlsoaz wrote: After Hurricane Sandy I did get to thinking about my own grid-tied PV which only supplies part of my electric energy needs, and how I do not have any batteries, and so there is no power here during an outage, so I do think part of my question can be partly wrapped into the Leaf-to-home question, and part of it into the what-to-do-with-leaf-packs-when-they're swapped-out question since at some point I'd just like to figure out if there's some elegant reasonable-cost way to have backup battery power for a few hours or more at my house without my spending too much.
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+1

Leaf to Home, both as is and tied into solar, will be a selling point for some. I'd like it for my place.

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Re: Questions for Jan 8th Town Hall Mtg in AZ

Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:28 pm

Goalnetpositive wrote:
+1

Leaf to Home, both as is and tied into solar, will be a selling point for some. I'd like it for my place.
Price for LEAF to home using the old batteries from your LEAF when the batteries need refreshing under warranty or otherwise.
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Re: Questions for Jan 8th Town Hall Mtg in AZ

Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:50 pm

evnow wrote:Question regarding capacity.

Does the "Gid" meter truly represent capacity ? If not, how can we find out the battery capacity status before we see a bar go out ?
Even though Nissan says one (1st) missing CB is 15%, every car I've tested with my BCM, and I've checked a lot of LEAFs, has been around 80-81% when they've lost the first bar and they told me their lower miles reflected that.
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