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Whole Foods Removes EV Charging Stations

Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:22 pm

I stopped at a Whole Foods in Northbrook, IL last night because I was nervous about making it home. They do have 1 Level 3 charger and 2 Level 2 chargers. One L2 was in use and the other was broken, so I was unable to charge. Most interesting was a sign posted on the chargers that they would be removed by February 3, 2014. I called today to get more information. I was told that many (maybe all?) Chicagoland Whole Foods will remove the EV chargers because they are run by a third party, often have problems, and customers blame Whole Foods, causing ill will. This seems like a bad omen. Whole Foods cares a lot about their eco-friendly image, and yet they are still taking this step. It may be evidence that public charging for limited range vehicles makes little sense in cold weather climates like Chicago.

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Re: Whole Foods Removes EV Charging Stations

Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:24 pm

mwagner wrote:I stopped at a Whole Foods in Northbrook, IL last night because I was nervous about making it home. They do have 1 Level 3 charger and 2 Level 2 chargers. One L2 was in use and the other was broken, so I was unable to charge. Most interesting was a sign posted on the chargers that they would be removed by February 3, 2014. I called today to get more information.
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Re: Whole Foods Removes EV Charging Stations

Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:28 pm

I think they were ChargePoint chargers.

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Re: Whole Foods Removes EV Charging Stations

Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:41 pm

The Whole Foods in Schaumburg is run by 350 Green. The WF in Kildeer already removed their EVSE.

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Re: Whole Foods Removes EV Charging Stations

Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:55 pm

From what I've heard... Whole Foods is a right wing run company. If they don't gain enough greenwash from installing them, maybe they abandon at first sign of trouble. I used one here is Sunny Lafayette CA... worked fine... no problem. Haven't heard anyone say they are pulling these. Hopefully this isn't a trend cause we need more not less of the EVSE.

Make some noise about them removing them on local news... maybe they will stop and fix them... or contact EvGo or one of the other co's to see if they can replace with more reliable ones.

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Re: Whole Foods Removes EV Charging Stations

Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:23 pm

It would be a shame and a bad trend if Whole Paycheck continues to do this. ( Much as I liked their "mission" as first, from what I've heard and actions they've taken, they do seem to be a right-wing, bottom-line-is-#1-concern company. The CEO is a bit of an odd ball, to put it mildly and vaguely. :) )

That being said, there are at least three Whole Foods in the Bay Area that have had or will have DCFCs installed on their property, and I'm glad about that! Alas, these units (in SF, Berkeley and Fremont) are made by EVGo, another company I and others here "have issues with".
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Re: Whole Foods Removes EV Charging Stations

Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:00 pm

jsongster wrote:From what I've heard... Whole Foods is a right wing run company.
I've heard the same thing about them myself. The one down the street just installed two ABB DCFCs, but the parking garage is owned by Vulcan, so Whole Foods didn't have any hand in it. Seems like the greenwashing theory is a likely one. Aside from their stellar assortment of organic bacon, I usually take my business elsewhere. :twisted:
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Re: Whole Foods Removes EV Charging Stations

Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:16 pm

From what I've heard... Whole Foods is a right wing run company
mbender wrote: Much as I liked their "mission" as first, from what I've heard and actions they've taken, they do seem to be a right-wing, bottom-line-is-#1-concern company.
You guys crack me up, "Right Wing run Company" "Bottom-line-is-#1-concern company" either you guys have never run a business or you are so far out in left field you cannot see home plate. Any company that is not looking first at bottom line will not survive long enough to succeed unless the founder is rich chasing ideology. The left wing companies are looking first at bottom line also, profit is the ONLY thing that will keep a company going (except a government or government handout).

It appears whole foods was trying to meet a customer demand that was causing more bad PR than was receiving good PR thus you stop the bleeding. Because they tried and it didn't work you are going to give them more grief than if they never bothered to try. That will really encourage other companies to give it a chance.

You have to admit there is probably not a lot of EVs in the midwest, real demand for L2 charging was probably very low but they wanted to be a leader in the area. Because it caused bad PR with the non-EV people and drew in very few new EV people why should they keep beating their head against a wall?
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Re: Whole Foods Removes EV Charging Stations

Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:29 pm

mbender wrote:It would be a shame and a bad trend if Whole Paycheck continues to do this. ( Much as I liked their "mission" as first, from what I've heard and actions they've taken, they do seem to be a right-wing, bottom-line-is-#1-concern company. The CEO is a bit of an odd ball, to put it mildly and vaguely. :) )
Unfortunately, even the companies that start out with high moral purpose sink to the lowest common denominator when they get larger. Example:

"Don't be evil" Google funding global warming denier Inhofe:

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/01/google_ ... or_inhofe/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's pretty sad.
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Re: Whole Foods Removes EV Charging Stations

Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:10 pm

Stoaty wrote: Example:

"Don't be evil" Google funding global warming denier Inhofe:

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/01/google_ ... or_inhofe/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's pretty sad.
That's awful. Sorry this is the first I've heard of this, as I'm a pretty strong Google supporter. Definitely goes to your point about starting high and sinking over time.
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