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Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:04 am
by Stanton
OrientExpress wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:38 pm
Would you consider a 40kWh upgrade swap for $8k?
Absolutely! In fact, there is more value (to me) in anything larger than the 24kWhr pack. For example, I would not even pay $6k for a 24kWhr pack.

Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:17 am
by goldbrick
I wonder if the cost to Nissan of building a 40kWh pack is the same or lower than a 24kWh pack now. It would be a game-changer if old Leaf's could get a new 40kWh pack for a reasonable fee. I still wish I would have bought that old Leaf that I saw listed for $2500. I don't have time for a cell swap but if a 40kWh pack could be bought from Nissan, then it's nearly a no-brainer.

Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:53 am
by dsh
Im the Phoenix class-action representative from the Nissan Leaf battery degradation class action lawsuit that was filed against Nissan and I still own my 2011 Nissan Leaf w/ 101,800 miles and am down 6 capacity bars on the second battery which was replaced under the capacity warranty. I just spoke to Nissan customer service and they lowered the price of their 24 kilowatt hour battery to approximately $5,495. They're 40 kilowatt battery is now $12,495. They are discontinuing the 30 kilowatt hour battery and replacing those cars batteries with their 40 kilowatt hour battery. They have still yet to announce this which is odd and they will not install a 40 kilowatt hour in a 24 kilowatt hour equipped car. I told them about Fenix Power and that Fenix power will be the best solution because your batteries with a small subscription price every month will be kept at maximum capacity and you'll always be at 12 capacity bars.. Can't Wait! :P

Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:21 pm
by fotajoye
OrientExpress wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:38 pm
Would you consider a 40kWh upgrade swap for $8k?
Yes, I would spend $8k for that increase in mileage; my 2011 SV has 32,000 miles and 10 bars yet; since the mileage is low, I'm thinking the battery has an age factor association in addition to a usage factor. The chassis is still in great shape.

Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:21 pm
by OrientExpress
I'm currently in contact with the post-sale and PR groups about this issue, and will post their response when and if I receive one.

Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:53 pm
by fotajoye
OrientExpress wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:21 pm
I'm currently in contact with the post-sale and PR groups about this issue, and will post their response when and if I receive one.
Your work would be most appreciated!

Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:14 pm
by LeftieBiker
Not to sound too critical, but what you will get from OE will be whatever Nissan publishes in pamphlet form for public consumption, possibly a bit before it is released. So far what we have is someone writing in an EV forum that they were told by Nissan's EV hotline that 40kwh batteries will now be used for 30kwh replacements. That's it, so far.

Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:44 am
by danrjones
dsh wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:53 am
Im the Phoenix class-action representative from the Nissan Leaf battery degradation class action lawsuit that was filed against Nissan and I still own my 2011 Nissan Leaf w/ 101,800 miles and am down 6 capacity bars on the second battery which was replaced under the capacity warranty. I just spoke to Nissan customer service and they lowered the price of their 24 kilowatt hour battery to approximately $5,495. They're 40 kilowatt battery is now $12,495. They are discontinuing the 30 kilowatt hour battery and replacing those cars batteries with their 40 kilowatt hour battery. They have still yet to announce this which is odd and they will not install a 40 kilowatt hour in a 24 kilowatt hour equipped car. I told them about Fenix Power and that Fenix power will be the best solution because your batteries with a small subscription price every month will be kept at maximum capacity and you'll always be at 12 capacity bars.. Can't Wait! :P
I thought I had responded to this but I don't see it... IF this is correct, that's $312 per kWh for the 40 pack in total, which seems absurd to me. The 24 pack is $228 per kWh. So much for economies of scale! Both are well above what the rumor mill says the current price is for batteries.

Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:57 am
by OrientExpress
Here is what I learned today from Nissan:

According to an official response that I have received from Nissan, they confirm that they are now replacing 30 kWh batteries for 2016 & 17 LEAF warranty claims with the newer 40 kWh. This is only for warranty claims.

This is only for 2016-17 cars, and does not apply to any 24 kWh cars of which the vast majority are out of their battery warranty period.

I expect more detailed info by the weekend.

Re: Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:48 am
by LeftieBiker
Lothsahn has spoken with the Nissan help line, and they are telling people that the 24kwh pack will now cost $5500 plus core charge and labor.

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