SteveInSeattle
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"Trickle charging is not recommended for regular use"

Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:51 pm

This quote is from CH-7 in the owners manual. Why do they discourage 120 V charging?
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mwalsh
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Re: "Trickle charging is not recommended for regular use"

Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:53 pm

SteveInSeattle wrote:This quote is from CH-7 in the owners manual. Why do they discourage 120 V charging?
Probably trying to avoid people not having time to get enough charge into the car.
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Re: "Trickle charging is not recommended for regular use"

Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:11 pm

Probably their contract with AV says they have to say that.
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Re: "Trickle charging is not recommended for regular use"

Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:13 pm

Sometimes hammering a lead pack with current makes them last longer. Over charging or deep cycling them will kill them, Heat is a separate issue. Putting butter on battery terminals before mounting the cables will increase current by as much as 10%.

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Re: "Trickle charging is not recommended for regular use"

Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:24 pm

I really can't tell if the L2 thing is over hyped or what. Most people will be charging their cars in 2 hours overnight on L2 or in 8 hours on L1. This is based on Nissans own daily driving habits data. Its almost starting to sound like some sorta Y2K hysteria about L2 infrastructure panic. If L1 is bad then everyone really needs to know why.
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Re: "Trickle charging is not recommended for regular use"

Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:26 pm

I more than agree, +50 :D
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Re: "Trickle charging is not recommended for regular use"

Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:28 pm

Someone on the driving tour sais it wasn't as good for the batteries as L2
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Re: "Trickle charging is not recommended for regular use"

Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:49 pm

Some people say that Chocolate is better than Vanilla. Fine. To keep it from just being an opinion, Nissan should explain why. Very simple. We love to beat obscure information to death so we would be all over big information.

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Re: "Trickle charging is not recommended for regular use"

Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:01 am

I'm starting to dislike the Nissan marketing approach and question their intentions related to battery packs. What do they have to hide if they have so much to brag about? But then, a couple moronic marketing and management IDIOTS at Aptera brought a great concept to the ground. When I say IDIOTS it's I'm using kind language. Once a few tech savvy people get a Leaf these questions or myths will be clear, I have a few I plan to dispel very quickly. The marketing people at Nissan do not have the tech knowledge to outsmart the web and the smart consumers, BS does not fly in the EV world and somehow they want us to believe that the perfect charge rate is EXACTLY 3.3 KW. Not more. not less.

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Re: "Trickle charging is not recommended for regular use"

Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:20 am

cdub wrote:Someone on the driving tour sais it wasn't as good for the batteries as L2
I don't think that is the reason. Note that while discussing "normal" (L2) charging they say:
NISSAN recommends using normal charging for usual charging of the vehicle. Use of quick charge should be minimized in order to help prolong Li-ion battery life.
If L1 isn't as good for the battery, why didn't they say, "Use of quick charge or trickle charge should be minimized ..."?

My own guess is that some marketing folk were worried that a potential customer might have the following dialog with a LEAF owner:

"Hey, nice looking car, but how do you fill the tank?"

"Oh, I just plug it in when I get home at night."

"You mean you just plug it in to an ordinary outlet?"

"Well, there is a fancy gadget you can buy that's supposed to charge it faster, but it's pretty expensive, so, yeah, I just plug in this special cord here that comes with the car."

"Interesting. How long does it take to charge that way?"

"Well if it's completely discharged, it can take more than twenty hours, but ..."

"TWENTY HOURS?? That's crazy! No way would I ever get a car like that."
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