As one of the disgruntled owners who just had his battery replaced at 45K mi. Yes I do believe that Nissan would try to pull a fast one. They did it before and it did take a class action lawsuit to resolve it. When I bought this car Nissan offered a 100,000 mi warranty on the battery and said that typically the battery would still retain 80% of it's capacity after 8 years or 100,000 miles. For those in hot climates like SoCal, AZ, Texas and Florida these batteries perform abysmally losing 30-40% of the initial capacity within a couple of years. Even owners in northern tier states are reporting 20% losses already. Keep in mind the Nissan has fiddled around with the capacity gauge already to give the illusion that the battery is still in great shape with all 12 bars when in reality many cars are down 15% or more already. If Nissan was playing it straight the first bar would drop at 92% not 80% The software fix may be legitimate and fix a programming error but I doubt that is going to increase the number miles you can get on a charge or fix a degraded battery. At best it will slow the degradation of the battery somewhat. At the worst, it could be a bandaid to try get more cars to limp over the warranty limits or fool some owners into not applying for warranty repairs soon enough.coldstorage5 wrote:Hi, There seems to be a lot on Nissan Haters on this board. Surprising because this is a Nissan Leaf Board.
With that said. I have 2017 SL with 8200K. No issues. I was surprised how fast it is and happy with the quality so far. Very Pleased so far after with a $7500 Tax Credit. $1900 Off sticker price New York State Incentive and another $10000 Off MSRP in the great state of New York last August.
I've been following the 30 KW Battery degradation issue since day 1. All the Graphs and Histeria.
I'm happy Nissan has realized there is a software issue. ( if this was Tesla some of you would be Swooning how great it was that they discovered a problem and fixed it. Also, the Telsa 3's are still coming in at twice the price. Those 35K are still not happening.)
Nissan would not offer a fix if it wasn't legit. Come On people. You think Nissan would open themselves up to a class-action lawsuit by rebooting software after their batteries weren't lasting long. Really?
I m100% confident this will show the batteries are good. Remember Only a handful have failed over the warranty time period. Do the research as I have.
After I get the Reboot I will wait the 7 years and another 91000 to see how the battery hangs in there.
All The best,
You're right that there are no 35K Teslas but there are $44K Teslas. A Full Boat model 3 is about 58K and a Full Boat Leaf is over 40K. Tesla batteries are good for at least 200K miles and maybe up to 500K miles. And Tesla is known for fixing problems both on older models and new ones. The State and Federal incentives apply to all EV's.
By the way, I love the car, just hate the battery. I bought this car for a particular purpose and it works fine for that. Even with the degraded battery, it could do what I wanted ( if just barely). In a couple more years there's going to be a much bigger selection of BEV's to choose from and Nissan's reputation about how they treated their BEV customers could bite them in the ass. I've driven Nissan's for almost 30 years but this could be my last. Other than battery, I've had zero issues with the car.