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Re: Illinois Insanity

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 8:14 am
by Oilpan4
You know what this means.
They really aren't worried about and/or don't care about man made climate change.
Money is more important than environmental damage.

Re: Illinois Insanity

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 8:17 am
by WetEV
Oilpan4 wrote:You know what this means.
They really aren't worried about and/or don't care about man made climate change.
Money is more important than environmental damage.
In your value system, perhaps.

Re: Illinois Insanity

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 8:20 am
by Oilpan4
WetEV wrote:
Oilpan4 wrote:You know what this means.
They really aren't worried about and/or don't care about man made climate change.
Money is more important than environmental damage.
In your value system, perhaps.
Illinois isn't my system.
Just pointing out an observation.
If you have a better explanation as to why a bunch of ill democrats are trying to kill the electric car in their state do tell.

Re: Illinois Insanity

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 11:44 am
by SageBrush
Oilpan4 wrote:You know what this means.
They really aren't worried about and/or don't care about man made climate change.
Money is more important than environmental damage.
More specifically, auto dealer money is more important to one particular scummy politician than other considerations.

What is your excuse ? A couple dollars a month are enough to buy your vote which then opens the door to politicians like the one in IL.

Re: Illinois Insanity

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 11:48 am
by webb14leafs
The $1000 figure is insane, but I do understand states that have surcharges. Maintenance on Roads and Bridges are largely funded by gas taxes. We still drive on those roads and should pay our fair share.

Re: Illinois Insanity

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 12:46 pm
by Coinneach
Evoforce wrote:Arizona, as of the first of this year, does not have reduced EV registration. Governor wanted more money for Sheriffs dept. Easy money...

We should get breaks, we are not contributing more foul air to the planet. Our type of cars generally cost more new so give us a break...

All we get is $75 for installing a home charger.
Say what? My registration including the DPS (not shurfs) fee was $67. Compare that to the ~$400 I paid for the first year on my 2016 Civic.

Re: Illinois Insanity

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 12:57 pm
by Oilpan4
Unlike the state of Illinois I actually encourage people to buy second hand electric vehicles.

I made it very clear I don't want any government money.
Not for buying a certain kind of car, not for solar panels, I don't need to be bribed with free chargers, ect like you.

Re: Illinois Insanity

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 1:17 pm
by rmay635703
webb14leafs wrote:The $1000 figure is insane, but I do understand states that have surcharges. Maintenance on Roads and Bridges are largely funded by gas taxes. We still drive on those roads and should pay our fair share.
Illinois roads aren’t funded by gas tax or registration fees
80% comes from grants, sales tax and the general fund.

So There is no need to tax “that one guy” $1000 a year with so few cars in the state.

Further Illinois charges similar “Municipal Substation Taxes” at similar rates as Rhode Island
See here
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsda ... 1.26354926

It’s charged per kwhr and amounts to about $450 a year tax into the general fund per resident, meaning EVs in areas like this pay about 40% tax on their “fuel” which is far higher than gas tax. And it even goes into the same general fund most road funding funnels through.

People really need to stop knuckling over on these issues or the fees will continue to get more outlandish as more backlash occurs.

I don’t even burn anywhere near $500 a year to power my gas car, WTF would anyway pay a grand on the tax alone?

Re: Illinois Insanity

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 1:18 pm
by rmay635703
WetEV wrote:
Oilpan4 wrote:You know what this means.
They really aren't worried about and/or don't care about man made climate change.
Money is more important than environmental damage.
In your value system, perhaps.
One of the folks who bought a $3500 IMIEV a couple years ago then got bit by a dramatic increase in registration costs
looked into the fine for having expired registration and it was like $100 and rarely caught in the real world anyway.

My uncle was one of “those guys” silly taxes like this will result in more of “those guys” on the road

Re: Illinois Insanity

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 1:41 pm
by smkettner
wmcbrine wrote:State Senator Martin Sandoval proposes a $1000 annual tax on EV ownership:

https://chargedevs.com/newswire/illinoi ... ee-on-evs/

Please let him and other legislators know how you feel about this, especially if you're actually in Illinois.
Please post if this actually becomes law.